Is the "Tuff" still a possibility?

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All I remember was that this knife was supposed to have 3V and a compression lock. Would love to see it get made.
 
It is still a possibility. We will be speaking with a maker about it after the Blade show.

sal
 
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+1! :D

Although I must say if it's a small folder, why not go for edge retention and hit up 10V?
 
I do not even need a picture, if it has a 3V blade, compression lock and Sal's name on it, I'll take it!
 
I'm all for a folder with 10V, but 1) production costs, 2) production costs, and 3) production costs.

In a "Tuff" application 3v, or M4 has it over 10V, while retaining plenty of wear resistance. The original concept as discussed here was 3V.

We'll see. I love M4, and think I prefer it over 3V for any folder application I could think of. 10V ? Trying to talk Sal into that is a stretch at best. Certainly the costs would put it up there with some customs, plus he has never really been enthused about non stainless knives, though in all fairness he did do the CPM D2 knives, technically a carbon steel.

10V may not have 3V's toughness, but it is tough enough for most folder applications. It has scads of wear resistance, beating out even S90V. M4 takes the best edge, and is the best compromise IMO. Joe
 
10V isn't any tougher than D2, S30V, S90V, or ATS34. 3V approaches shock steels in impact resistance, and M4 is tougher than those other steels as well. I would like a 10V folder, but not named 'Tuff'.
 
hardheart said:
10V isn't any tougher than D2, S30V, S90V, or ATS34. 3V approaches shock steels in impact resistance, and M4 is tougher than those other steels as well. I would like a 10V folder, but not named 'Tuff'.
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Basically I recommend it because of what Joe just said. Tons of wear resistance and insane edge retention. For a folder I would prefer the edge retention over the pure toughness because in all likelihood, something is going to break before the blade does.

Joe's idea for 10V in a sprint Stretch model is awesome though. :D

Does anyone know custom makers who use 10V regularly? I'm looking for a particular blade....
 
The idea behind the Tuff is durability. This knife will take extreme use. It will be the heaviest compression lock that to my knowledge that Spyderco has made. The blade is fullered for stiffness and reduction of weight. The thickness of the blade below the fuller was full thickness of the steel. It was designed as a 3/16 blade but might come to market at 4 mm.

Charpy numbers on 3V are extremely good and that criteria weighed heavily on the choice of steel...Take Care...Ed
 
Josh K said:
Basically I recommend it because of what Joe just said. Tons of wear resistance and insane edge retention. For a folder I would prefer the edge retention over the pure toughness because in all likelihood, something is going to break before the blade does.

Joe's idea for 10V in a sprint Stretch model is awesome though. :D

Does anyone know custom makers who use 10V regularly? I'm looking for a particular blade....
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I agree, pivot pins and locks are failure points, and you can't swing a folder all that hard as compared to a huge chopper. Just trying to stick with the name :)

Butch Harner had a 10V framelock in the for sale section, might still be there. He uses both 10V and 3V (plus CPM154, D2, 52100, etc) and does nice grinds in tacticals, kitchen cutlery, and straight razors.

I wanna see this Tuff, especially after that description.
 
Ed Schempp said:
The idea behind the Tuff is durability. This knife will take extreme use. It will be the heaviest compression lock that to my knowledge that Spyderco has made. The blade is fullered for stiffness and reduction of weight. The thickness of the blade below the fuller was full thickness of the steel. It was designed as a 3/16 blade but might come to market at 4 mm.

Charpy numbers on 3V are extremely good and that criteria weighed heavily on the choice of steel...Take Care...Ed
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Yes. YES. HELL. YES!!!
 
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