Is there a faster open then a coldsteel ti-lite?

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Is there a faster open from a pocket folder then a coldsteel ti-lite (or other wave type opens which catch on your pocket)?
 
Yes

Spyderco has patent right from emerson and some feel that they improved the wave and then of course the original founder of the wave Emerson knives that incorporated the wave on alomost all his knives.
 
If one was so inclined... a wave could be put on almost any folder :D
 
you mean faster drawing from the pocket? or manually opening it with your thumb? The Cold Steel Ti_Lite is the fastest manual opening knife I have ever held. Just push the thumb stud out in the right angle and it flies open. It also has a huge ball bearing and detent, so when that energy from beating the detent is released the blade rockets out of the handle.
 
I can deploy a fixed blade faster. past that i think it all depends on the skill of the user.
 
The Spyderco Wave models are faster, easier on the pocket, and much more reliable when it comes to using the wave function. The Ti-Lite and D4W were my first "good" knives, and I've always thought that the Spyderco implementation was better.

The Ti-Lite relies on rough/sharp grooves on the quillion to catch (and rip) the pocket as the knife is coming out. You have to make sure that the quillion is going to hit right against the corner of your pocket; there's little room for leniency on this. The very stiff clip doesn't help this either; it's hard to wave it and end up in a comfortable grip. If you don't practice it a lot, you're going to have to adjust your grip every time.

The Spyderco version, on the other hand... It does not rely on gripping onto the pocket seam like a claw; it relies simply on hooking onto it with smooth metal. After the blade is opened far enough, the hook slides off very easily, leaving the pocket unharmed. The hourglass clip helps make this all an easy process by allowing easy attach and detachment, yet staying on the pocket without fear of it falling off. There is really no need to readjust the grip.

So yes, I believe the Spyderco waved knives are faster (and safer). That said, I still carry my Ti-Lite every day. I like flippers; I think they're just as fast and even more reliable.
 
The R.A.M. and energy from Kershaw, the rainbow leek I can index open the fastest I believe, faster than any auto or manual... the blur from Kershaw, if done right can sound like the chambering of a bullet in a pistol...

Fastest to open and close? Benchmade 610 Rukus.

That's all I can think of...
 
AO aside, I think my 2 fastest opening knives would have to be my CRKT M1, and my RAT model 1. They both very smooth fast openings.
 
knivesandguns said:
The R.A.M. and energy from Kershaw, the rainbow leek I can index open the fastest I believe, faster than any auto or manual... the blur from Kershaw, if done right can sound like the chambering of a bullet in a pistol...

Fastest to open and close? Benchmade 610 Rukus.

That's all I can think of...
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I have a leek too but it seems a bit slow when you have to pull it out, unlock it, and then deploy it.
 
I would say that Kershaw has some of the FASTEST knives on the market ! My SpeedBump is really quick to open but so is my Spyderco Endura4 waved !
 
I prefer the Ti-Lite's quillion design, since you can use your thumb to open it (try that with most of the Emerson's, etc.).
 
orthogonal1 said:
I prefer the Ti-Lite's quillion design, since you can use your thumb to open it (try that with most of the Emerson's, etc.).
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With thumb openings, Benchmade axis locks are the fastest for me. I've found for wave type openings, the Spyderco version of the Emerson wave is the most efficient.
 
Of all the folders I've handled - and admittedly there must be hundreds that I haven't - the 'open on draw' designs like the TiLite and Waves were the fastest to open from a pocket carry position. They are effectively locked and ready as soon as they clear the pocket. However, they do take a lot of practice to get right and can ruin your jeans. All the auto's and SA's require a double movement - ie (1) draw then (2)open. However, if you already have the knife in hand then a lot of other designs will open faster. Problem is that most of them also require you to shift your grip from the "keep fingers clear while opening knife" position to the "get a firm grip for using knife" hold. If I had to go into harm's way and needed a last ditch weapon I'd tend to go for a Ka-Bar TDI with its multi-positionable sheath. The other disadvantage of folders is that they all go 'click' when they lock open so it's not possible to deploy silently. No prob in a disco but not so good if you are trying to stay concealed and undetected.

The Spydies and Emmies IMO would be better as Tactical Folders that also double duty for CQC. The TiLite's stilleto design limits its usefulness for some CQC strikes but it does make a great letter opener and you should see how the rest of the office get real quiet when I pull it out to check my snail mail - just kidding.
 
marthinus said:
Yes

Spyderco has patent right from emerson and some feel that they improved the wave and then of course the original founder of the wave Emerson knives that incorporated the wave on alomost all his knives.
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Spyderco licenses the wave feature from Emerson, gives him credit, and they pay him royalties. As an owner of many Emerson and Spyderco knives, I must say that I feel Spyderco does a better job with Emerson's wave feature than Emerson does. Spyderco (and Shivworks) even took the wave feature a step further with their P'kal folder, by adding a removable wave feature.

Having tried "waving" a friend's Cold Steel Ti-lite, I have to say that the Emersons are more reliable at opening, and the Spydercos are even more reliable yet. I think the factory "waved" Spyderco Delica, Endura, and Rescue models are the fastest, most reliable, wave-opening knives on the market today! I truly doubt you'll find a faster opening folder anywhere in the world!

Regards,
3G
 
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