Is there a traditional folder with SAK-like tools?

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matus

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Hi,

I am looking for a knife (for a friend) - a traditional folder that has similar functionality to a SAK. All I have found sofar is Jr. Scout from Schatt & Morgan which is a bit on the small side. I am looking f a knife where the main blade at least 2.5". Is there anything like that?

thanks
 
The 1994 Remington bullet is a large camper. I don't know the exact length of the main blade, but closed length is about 5 inches. It has 2 blades (clip and sheepsfoot), awl, and cap lifter/screwdriver. You can find them unused for around $40.
 
Thank you. The Remington goes in the reight direction, but is a bit on the large side to be honest. The Marbles Workman looks interesting - I am going to have a closer look. Thanks.

EDIT: The Marbles Workman cost just couple of bucks - what kind of quality may one expect? I am more looking at the class of good quality production traditional knives - the Jr. Scout from Schatt & Morganwas actually a good example, just a bit too small.
 
Schatt and Morgan made a full sized knife a couple years ago. It's model 342SK. If you search the usual auction site their are a couple for sale. It may be a little more than you want to spend on a gift?
 
I am looking in the price range up to about $150, less is OK of course :)

The large Sout from Schatt & Morgan looks really nice. But what should I expect from the steel - it is supposed to be "420 High Carbon Stainless Steel" - is that the 420HC that Buck also uses? Is it worth the cost?

EDIT: Browsing around a bit turned up a thread on exactly this topic - it seems that the 420 HC from S&M is more than good enough for the tasks that may come. So it looks like a good candidate.
 
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AG Russell Premium Scout. Secondary market. 154cm main blade. 440a tool blades.
 
How comes I missed the Case - thanks!

The Scout from AG Russels looks great too (and has better steel to boot) - it just seems hard to find one.
 
The only decent production full-size scout patterns, currently made in USA, seem to be made by Queen. The main blade is D2 steel. I believe the other tools are probably 420HC. Gorgeous bone. Fit and finish is a little hit or miss on these.

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The secondary market has tons of great scout patterns. If you can find a mint Kabar 1152 on the secondary market, you can get an excellent Camillus-made scout in carbon steel with delrin scales.

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Camillus also produced the Camillus 99 for many years, which is easily found on the secondary market. Some in carbon steel. Some in stainless (440a and 420hc). The carbon steel models generally have a longer screwdriver. The stainless have a shorter screwdriver.

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The Remington R-4 (also Camillus made) had a great set of tools. Lots of them on the secondary market. 440a or 420Hc steel on these.

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The Western 901 is also excellent. Some were made by Western. Some by Camillus after they acquired Western.

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The Camillus C-4 is highly sought after. Great tools.

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As previously mentioned, there is the AG Russell Premium Scout, made by Camillus. It's the gold standard of scouts. 154CM blade. Micarta scales. Camillus quality.

Not easily found is the Robeson scout, made by Queen with an ATS-34 main blade and bone scales. Rare as hen's teeth.

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In the end, it's best to find a new Queen in D2, if you can find a dealer to hand pick you good one. If not, go to an auction site and find something above in NOS (new old stock) condition. Or go with something made overseas. Can't vouch for the quality of the blades on those.
 
Thanks a lot! That are quite a few great options. I will check them out.
 
The new Marbles knives are of excellent quality. I have one of their MR278 knives (a copy of the Camillus "US" marked all steel military issue 4 blade scout/utility knife of WW II to at least Viet Nam) which is just as good as the original Camillus I have.
Rough Rider also makes a good scout/camp knife, I think they offer red bone and amber bone cover options. Rough Rider is another low cost knife, but they have a reputation for quality. Check out the Rough Rider and Related thread.

If you're looking strictly for US made, the Ulster "Official Boy Scout" knife is a good one, and reasonably priced, to boot.
 
AG Russell sold this one with 420HC or 440a main blade. He would offer a certain number of Premium Scouts with the blade etch and 154cm steel. Then he had the non Premium with no etch like mine. Either one is very well made.
 
Here's a couple Boker 182's just to mess with your head.

 
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Yeah... the Böker Sportsmesser is a wonderful knife. But the other ones are not bad either ;)
 
Going through the candidates the Queen and AG Russels look the most 'cool' to me and also have very good blade steels. I had a look at the Boker, but to my understanding it is made out steel that is very similar to 420 and is hardened to relatively low hrc. Friend of mine for who the knife is intended has some Japanese carbon steel kitchen knives at home so both knows what 'sharp blade' and is able to keep them in good shape and sharpen them (free hand), so I think he would appreciate better blade steel.
 
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