Is there another knife

FlashOfLightning you're just giving him what he wants. He is what you call a "troll" and they get off on seeing people on forums get angry. If you ignore him he'll eventually get bored and go away.
 
XM 18 or the rockstar both NICE. To vouch for lycosa warren thomas does make some cool stuff. Mike Obenauf made some nice Ti handle frame locks before he exited stage left and they can still be found for 400 to 450 bucks If you look around a bit.
 
mongomondo said:
It's a little heavier than I like but the Zero Tolerance 300 series are very high quality and cost about $230 at most online stores. From every review I read they compare very well to Strider folders. They are constructed similarly too - half titanium/half g10 handles, framelock, s30v steel. The only parts I don't care for is the weight *8oz* and that the knife is so wide. But for half the cost of the SNG it's definitely worth considering. I'm thinking of getting one myself.

Also just my opinion but I have the Spyderco Caly 3 and a small Sebenza and I prefer the Caly 3. Both are great knives though.
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the zt030x series are very nice, but if I was going to recommend a ZT knife, it would have to be the MUDD folder. its just such a weird and crazy design.

maybe a lone wolf loveless? im going to take a trip down to the gun store tommorrow because they carry lone wolf and Ill check it out if they have it even though Im mostly looking for a harsey model for myself. They also have the paul prankster models, both his larger folder and the scrimshaw model (a bit small for the asking price 350-450 depending on the etch) look just sick.

oh and the knife below looks excellent too.
 
I might suggest venturing into the custom arena. If you aren't ready for that plunge then there are still some interesting semi-production models to be had. Here is one example from a readily available supplier.

http://www.agrussell.com/klandouml;tzli-brian-tighe-titanium-/p/HKhhhTIGHE06hhhC/

However, for that kind of money I would suggest finding a maker here on the forums and ordering up something to suit your particular needs. You will be surprised at the quality you get, and the knowledge that your knife is a one of a kind. We just completed a discussion about this in WS&S. There is a certain satisfaction owning a knife you know was made by a single person who poured their effort into it. Then you have a knife with a great story and background, you won't regret it.


Good luck!
 
Two custom knives that I have been considering, in the Sebenza quality and price range, are the R.J Martin Avenger and Lightfoot Catch Dog.
 
Another vote for the Hinderer XM18. Its the one I want to add to my collection.

I own a Surefire Delta, Quality wise I feel it is in the same leagues as the Strider and Sebenza, but both my SNG and Sebenza i feel have better ergonomics, you have to hold a delta for yourself & see how it feels for you... nonetheless, the delta is an extremely well thought out knife, Great LEO duty belt carry knife, but for EDC it just might be a little too much IMHO. Just my opinion :-)

I also own a Warren Thomas M2. Beautiful folder but its a different beast. The materials and feel. It sits with my collection most of the time, it occasionaly sees the sun when I want a light weight carry piece and I know I wont be doing any heavy duty knife duties.
 
Bradley Alias is a nice contender for a Sebenza without the large price tag, about half the price.
 
How about a Klotzli Walker?
Here's a photo of one I bought earlier this year. It gets a lot of carry 'cause it matches my blue jeans.:D
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"lying kid", "retard"?

I don't think so. It was a legitimate question, and the kind this forum is here to answer. Gull Wing, if you don't have a BM 710, I suggest you get one. Not a custom, but they are classics. I have two. Used to have three, but I gave one to my nephew, when he went to Iraq. He leaves again today. He told me he uses it a lot, and his buddies borrow it a lot. He is in an F-16 maintenance crew. It is the "old" 154CM, partially serrated, black coated version. Not fancy, just a really good knife. But that's just my opinion, maybe I'm a stupid retard with a stupid Senior Airman nephew who has never held a whoop deedo Sebenza.
 
Kim Lau said:
Bradley Alias is a nice contender for a Sebenza without the large price tag, about half the price.
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the problem with bradley alias is that it so much wants to be a sebenza, that makes it just a copy, even if it has a good quality overall
so buying that as a substitute for a real sebenza would only make me spend more money, because at one point , i would buy a sebenza to, making the bradley a useless item in my collection.
but that again, if bought as a knife, and not as a sebenza wanna be, it would make a great knife :D
my 2 cents :D
 
Michael Burch makes a robust folder. His asian designs are extremely utilitarian and wonderful to look at. I suggest something from him.
 
I recently bought a Zero Tolerance 200 for a good price on ebay. It's hard to imagine other knives of even higher general quality. In theory the liner lock is less good than the frame lock of the more expensive ZTs (or a Sebenza for that matter) but this one works superbly well giving the knife a true tank-like feeling. Usually I don't care for tactical knives, but I succumbed to this one because of the incredibly sturdy feel. It is rather heavy though.
So, that could be an interesting contender to add, I suggest to check it out.
 
mnortham said:
"lying kid", "retard"?

I don't think so. It was a legitimate question, and the kind this forum is here to answer. Gull Wing, if you don't have a BM 710, I suggest you get one. Not a custom, but they are classics. I have two. Used to have three, but I gave one to my nephew, when he went to Iraq. He leaves again today. He told me he uses it a lot, and his buddies borrow it a lot. He is in an F-16 maintenance crew. It is the "old" 154CM, partially serrated, black coated version. Not fancy, just a really good knife. But that's just my opinion, maybe I'm a stupid retard with a stupid Senior Airman nephew who has never held a whoop deedo Sebenza.
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you may wish to check out some of the threads on page two before you make that kind of statement. your indignation is completely undeserved and if you look at this thread I think Ive been more than helpful in giving suggestions. also, its not really cool to try and guilt people by telling us about how such and such a product is good for some person who Im supposed to auotmatically respect. that is a nice story that you gave your nephew a knife, and I dont even mind it not really being on topic, but your intentions are somewhat meanspirited.

the 710 is a good knife, Ive got two myself and I certainly like them. but it doesnt really fit the original question. a 710 has great quality for a production knife, but its not really up to the fit and finish level of the 400+ dollar knives and that is specifically what the original poster is asking for.

what about a burke pro rockstar? that looks like a pretty good TI framelocker but its definately not a sebenza copy.
 
Lots of responses!Thank you very much.
Some I have not heard of, some I have. This should be fun checking into.
I will take my time with it since I haven't built up the sufficient capital yet.:)

The Henderer is quite hard to find isn't it?

Thank you, I am looking forward to the "hunt".
 
gull wing said:
Lots of responses!Thank you very much.
Some I have not heard of, some I have. This should be fun checking into.
I will take my time with it since I haven't built up the sufficient capital yet.:)

The Henderer is quite hard to find isn't it?

Thank you, I am looking forward to the "hunt".
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rick hinderer's site says hes so backed up hes not even taking new orders on the xm-18. youre going to pay a pretty penny to get one so youll have to be patient if thats the knife you want unless you are ready to shell out the cash in a big way. its a great design though.
 
For the Hinderer, go to his dealers and get on their mailing lists. There have been a couple of Gen 3 XM-18s that have been in the for sale section asking between $515-$550. Not too bad for the secondary market. It's really the Gen 2s that have the skyrocketed prices. I love mine ;).

You might want to check out the Chris Reeve Umnumzaan. It won the Blade 2008 "Overall knife of the year" award. It's probably the closest thing to a Sebenza/Strider mix. Looks like a winner to me:):
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Here's the description at Knife Art (on backorder):
MAKER: Chris Reeve Knives
BLADE SIZE: 3.675"
CLOSED SIZE: 4.77"
BLADE MATERIAL: Stainless S30V Steel - Stonewashed
FRAME: Blasted Titanium - machined
WEIGHT: 5.0 oz.
COMMENTS: The Chris Reeve Umnumzaan is the newest model in their line-up. Popular drop point blade shape with razor sharp hollow grinds. Refined design, high performance construction are all part of this folder. Titanium pocket clip mounted for tip up carry. INCREDIBLE pivot strength and smooth opening blade. Filed worked thumb rest for increased handling. Light for it's size, due to the titanium construction. Very strong integral locking mechanism that Chris Reeve pioneered. Begin to enjoy the quality of a Chris Reeve knife.

from Chris Reeve Knives, "In every sense of the definition, Umnumzaan is a knife deserving respect. Developed from the 20+ year heritage of the Sebenza, this bold, innovative folding knife is one to be reckoned with for its inventive design features and ability to get the job done.

A ceramic ball creates the interface between the blade locking surface and the integral locking arm surface. The ball doubles to drop into a detent on the blade to ensure the blade does not open accidentally.

Typical of CRK, the pivot strength is more robust than other folders. The large pivot screw and pin are supported by large thrust washers. These perforated phosphor bronze washers reduce friction and double to retain the fluorinated grease for longer lubrication thereby extending the life of the knife.

The thumb lug doubles as the stop pin, ensuring a solid lockup. Around the lug is a polyurethane o-ring that acts as a shock absorber to cushion the impact of the lug against the handle. Never wishing to copy other designs without giving credit, Grant and Gavin Hawk originated the shock absorber concept in one of their many innovative designs. We appreciate their consent for Chris to use this adaptation of their concept."
 
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