Is this a 2 dot???

No, the real one . Yours looks nice, wood and stamp . Whereas my wood looks nice but the stamp ran its own course . ;) DM
 
there has been discusson on stamps before
and i am glad that it has come up again
first dave IMHO your knife is real buck blade
i cant say when but i seen that stamp before
it was not used long with the long slop on the one's

i believe buck ordered their stamps and they were not made in house

many times a company may substitute styles on a reorder
as the person ordering may not have recalled the style of lettering
they had before or .. gee they no longer had that style

IF BUCK had keep detailed records they would be able to id
the short time that blade was made by the stamp

oh yea and 2ed
yes the whole knife in my humble onion
is real
it is very possible , i should say most likely,
that one of two things could have happened to explain this odd knife

SOME ONE AT BUCK found a small basket of older blades and:
one~ jest used them up one day
in fully radusised frames !
or used them as replacement blades on a knife sent in to buck

because~ buck wastes nothing !

be happy with it !!
if not
SEND IT TO ME !!!
i will be glad to have one that is ODD and UNUSUAL
as this one in my displays!!!

now others may disagree wit this old fart
all i can ask is what do they Know and WHY do they "know it "?...

"No statement should be believed because it is made by an authority".
Robert A. Heinlein

edit : i did mean to, but forgot to say
also it is possable the dots jest got sanded off as suggested by others
 
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OK Dave, then how do we explain the modern frame and the fact that the owner insists that he's owned it since '82 and that the prior owner had it for a couple of years before that. Also, the sheath?
 
Some 110s. The top two left ones are two-dots.

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Plumberdv said:
OK Dave, then how do we explain the modern frame and the fact that the owner insists that he's owned it since '82 and that the prior owner had it for a couple of years before that. Also, the sheath?
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In my experience, after a few years go by, many owners forget how long they've had things and just try to make the story fit the knife. There are a lot of stories out there.

Dave said it was probably that some old blades were found and used as blades in modern frames. That's most likely.

It may very well be that those blades with that stamp were set aside as soon as they found the stamp was defective or at least quite odd. Probably not too many were so stamped.

Years later somebody found them and said, "We can't waste these," and put them on the current modern frame of that time.

As I said before, measuring the thickness of the blade is one way to tell 440C from 425M, but you'd have to buy it to do that.

The kick on the ricasso does look like the older shape rather than the Four-Dot but that's not always a perfect way to tell.
 
imafritz said:
Sure looks like a 4dot with a 2dot blade. Cant believe they got polished out or didnt get stamped hard enough to leave the other 2 dots.
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So this got me to thinking, and if you look at this pic:
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there seems to be a line in the finish underneath the "USA", and this can occur when the blade is re-finished while remaining in the frame. If you were to use a 3M Scotchbrite belt to refinsh a blade, then grey-wheel it...it would produce a line like under the "USA". Look how the the lower half of the "BUCK" stamp gets narrower and less bold as it approaches the "110" stamp, the depth of the stamp diminishes; so perhaps 2 of the dots were removed in re-finishing. It's not my knife, and I didn't re-work it, but this is just another theory :p:D
 
That makes sense to me Scott. Couple that with the (as Flatlander noticed) more modern blade grind than a 2 dot and it's as good an explaination as any.
 
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Not only that, Scott.....if you look hard at where the dots SHOULD be, I think you will see a circular pattern in the steel, especially the one to the right......and those two circular spots are distinctively different from the rest of the grain that shows up on that part of the blade.

I never noticed it until I really started looking at it after your post.

That would also explain why the kick edge on the ricasso looks too rounded for a Two-Dotter.

Maybe the dots have been before our eyes all the time.

Or......I'm just seeing spots before my eyes.

:D
 
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Stelth, Excuse me as I was going to comment on yours last night but got tired and went to bed . I think your knife is a 4 dot w/ weak stamp, 425M steel . Thanks for the pictures . DM
 
I've not ever polished a portion of a Buck stamp off . That said, I don't use Scotch Brite wheels I start with sisal and grey rouge . Plus, I've not worked on 425M steel I polish the older 440C steels . So, I think Scott has a point and we should consider his as plausible . DM
 
Stelth, Your welcome and Merry Christmas to you as well . But realize I'm seldom right---Just ask my wife ... DM
 
The local dealer has a 4 dot finger groove in the box that I swore was a no dot until he showed that the dots were real faint.
Someone may also have the ability to dup a blade there-by making a forgery.
 
Guyon, What a handsome set, ten 110's . You've got some nice ones in the mix . A 100yr. Anniversary, four customs w/ BG-42 steel, an Alaskan Guide as well . But your top left 110--which you state as a two dot . That one is hard to come by, 3 small brass pins ! I've seen two other of those; one in Dave Meir's collection and one in George Wetzel's .
Thanks for posting your photo . Man, some you guys have some nice early 2 dot 110's . DM
 
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