Is this a Fake?

hermit dave said:
So I guess tip-offs for spotting a fake CRK are a big secret. Us poor peasants with lowly $100 folders aren't worthy of such privileged information.
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The point of not making the mistakes public knowledge is because the people making the fakes can and have used that information to make their fakes look more legitimate.

So if someone spots that the XYZ is wrong, once the counterfeiter hears about this, it tips him off so he knows to change XYZ to look more like the real deal.

The secrecy has nothing to do with keeping the information from the "poor peasants". I'm sure if you added up all of the $100 folders you've bought/sold/traded, you'd have enough to buy a few Sebenza's.
 
Bcamos is right. Educating the 'Kevin-Johns' of the world isn't a good plan. If you don't think they check this site when working on developing fakes, you're wrong. Anyone wanting my opinion on a fake (not that my opinion is any authority) is more than welcome to PM me. This forum is a very welcome place full of good people who are happy to help with just about any question. Your opinion, Hermit Dave, is possibly a result of spending too much time in negative spaces elsewhere in the Bladeforums world. Your questions are always welcome here, and I would be happy to help you, in private, if you have questions regarding a counterfeit CRK. Of course, the good people at CRK can also help as they have for others in the past.

For the record, I'm not rich, I didn't win the lotto, and have no inheritance. I'm a tradesman who works his butt off to pay the mortgage, and when I get a chance to work some long hours, on rare occasion I buy an expensive pocket knife. By no means am I "privileged". More of a peasant, truth be told, so don't be so quick to judge.

Welcome to the forum Dave!
 
hermit dave said:
I heard some of the better made clones are smoother and have better edge retention
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If you are here for information, that is great..but if you are here to troll this forum..I would do it elsewhere.
 
There are counterfeit CRs on eBay made in China that are falsely marked as CR, Idaho Made. It's one thing to copy and another to falsely brand.

Authorities routinely raid stores etc. that sell false Pravda. So how is the eBay site not busted? Benchmade has counterfeiters as well.
 
Because ebay doesn't sell them. Individuals sell them, using ebay as a venue.
 
Obviously, the counterfeiters already know where the mistakes are - they really aren't that stupid. They have genuine CRKs on hand. They make much more complicated fakes than this knife that are almost spot on unless you can handle it or take it apart (think of some of the fake Rolexes they can make - if you have ever seen a really good one). The steal and copy much, much more sophisticated technology than this.

This would be a piece of cake for them if they REALLY wanted to copy it to a tee. I think the closer they get to making it look completely genuine the more heat they get from the original manufacturer and their local government.

Disclosing the differences here would not educate the people that manufacture them. Maybe it would educate the seller of the fakes knives and the people that might buy one unknowingly.

Other forums go over the differences between a gen and a fake openly to educate other members of the forum. They use micrometers, sensitive scales that read accurately to the gram, take the apart and show an exploded diagram of the innards and outside and label the differences. Yet the manufacturer of the fakes never seem to get it completely right. What they get right in the next version of fakes, the mess something else up that they had right before.

Like I said earlier, I think if they wanted to make it an exact copy (or really damn close), they easily could. Maybe it costs too much to do so. I don't really know.

Personally, I don't think it hurts anybody to discuss the differences openly. But, it's not my forum.
 
hermit dave said:
So I guess tip-offs for spotting a fake CRK are a big secret. Us poor peasants with lowly $100 folders aren't worthy of such privileged information.
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The best way to tell if you are purchasing a legit CRK is by buying from a legit dealer. It's when you try to save a buck or two by going through questionable venues that you have to worry about the differences.

Even we plebs can afford a CRK if you save and are patient.
 
I don't think it's against any of the forum rules to discuss the differences openly, just some, if not most posters, here choose not to do so or prefer messaging through pms.

I don't have personal problem listing the differences I see and have done so in the past. I have never been formally reprimanded for doing so by any forum moderators.
 
Easily the biggest noticeable giveaways on cheaply done fakes are screws, date code, thumb stud, lanyard pin, jimping, and centering...

I will admit though, I have been fooled on here once or twice. Which is why its good to ask, regardless of what the difference may be, either known or unknown. The fakes continue to get better.
 
Nrthfce said:
I don't think it's against any of the forum rules to discuss the differences openly, just some, if not most posters, here choose not to do so or prefer messaging through pms.

I don't have personal problem listing the differences I see and have done so in the past. I have never been formally reprimanded for doing so by any forum moderators.
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It is not against forum rules to do so and those that wish to certainly have the freedom to do so and the opposite is true as well. Nobody should be chastised for their desire to not share openly.
 
bhyde said:
It is not against forum rules to do so and those that wish to certainly have the freedom to do so and the opposite is true as well. Nobody should be chastised for their desire to not share openly.
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That's good to know. I got the feeling doing so was taboo. So, I was trying to abide by that what I "thought" were the rules. My mistake. And, you are right, not openly sharing should also be a person's right.
 
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