Is this acceptable in a 1K knife?

no I don't think that is acceptable. I have $20 knives that I might accept it on, but on a custom of any price range I would not accept it. Well maybe that statement is to broad, but from a premier maker or seasoned smith, no I don't think I would accept it.

Although I would call the maker and ask them what the dimensional stability of the scales are, and if they noticed the gap. Don't accuse the maker of cutting corners, obviously, but be polite.


-Xander
 
fast14riot said:
no I don't think that is acceptable. I have $20 knives that I might accept it on, but on a custom of any price range I would not accept it. Well maybe that statement is to broad, but from a premier maker or seasoned smith, no I don't think I would accept it.

Although I would call the maker and ask them what the dimensional stability of the scales are, and if they noticed the gap. Don't accuse the maker of cutting corners, obviously, but be polite.


-Xander
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I very much agree. I would put my gripe in for that kind of money, or even if I bought it at walmart for 50$ Ide take it back and get another one. For a grand ... I would be asking questions.
 
If the liner sticks out further than the scale the same amount all the way around the the other side it could be intentional. Some makers make their scales like that. If I'm not mistaken, Bob Terzuola revers to that in his book as 'shadow boxing' the scale.
 
J. Doyle said:
If the liner sticks out further than the scale the same amount all the way around the the other side it could be intentional.
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It doesn't.

I'm not new to custom knives....I know what is acceptable fit and finish and what isn't....that's why I started this thread.
 
Uh, why did you start this thread then?

Contact the maker, problem solved.
 
^^ 5.56 A+

Sigh. This is a loaded question and can ONLY end poorly for the maker involved.

Is it acceptable? If the client is pleased and doesn't complain, yes. Some may very well be fine with this. (My opinion: These rougher 'pimped' surfaces are an aspect of harder-use knives. Knives that makers aren't as concerned with impeccable F&F. I could be wrong.)

You're not. Call your maker (or dealer) and say it's beyond your tolerance for fit and finish. Can you make it right?

I'm sure there is a suitable ending outside of a public bashing.

Coop
 
Chuck Gedraitis Knives said:
Is there a lip on the opposite side?
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Willie-sausage said:
What are you suggesting?
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J. Doyle said:
If the liner sticks out further than the scale the same amount all the way around the the other side it could be intentional. Some makers make their scales like that. If I'm not mistaken, Bob Terzuola revers to that in his book as 'shadow boxing' the scale.
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Willie-sausage said:
It doesn't.

I'm not new to custom knives....I know what is acceptable fit and finish and what isn't....that's why I started this thread.
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No one even remotely suggested or implied that you were new to custom knife collecting.

I believe Chuck was wondering the same thing that I asked in my post but you chose to answer his question with a vague question of your own.

I asked because your picture doesn't show anything very clear, let alone the whole scale. I only asked because you asked for our thoughts. If you had said in the first place that it was only like that in one place I wouldn't have even posted. If you already thought it was a flaw, I too wonder why you started the thread and didn't just contact the maker in private.

I was just trying to find out more info to help your original question. Sorry.
 
J. Doyle said:
No one even remotely suggested or implied that you were new to custom knife collecting.

I believe Chuck was wondering the same thing that I asked in my post but you chose to answer his question with a vague question of your own.

I asked because your picture doesn't show anything very clear, let alone the whole scale. I only asked because you asked for our thoughts. If you had said in the first place that it was only like that in one place I wouldn't have even posted. If you already thought it was a flaw, I too wonder why you started the thread and didn't just contact the maker in private.

I was just trying to find out more info to help your original question. Sorry.
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What he said. Post up a pic of the entire scale with all edges visible. If it's even, then it was probably meant to be that way. Look at the maker's other work. Does it reflect the same fit as others he's done? If you dropped a grand on a folder, I imagine the maker is well known enough to have pics all over the place. Do some comparisons.
 
5.56 said:
Uh, why did you start this thread then?

Contact the maker, problem solved.
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Just for the reason I stated.


Are there often flaws like this in high end custom knives?

Is it acceptable to you......do you get high end knives and find flaws like this?

It isn't acceptable to me......is it to you?
 
if I got a knife directly from the maker with something that I perceived as a flaw I'd let them know before posting up a thread about it, personally.
However, buying one on the aftermarket or used, well I wouldn't expect much if anything from the maker, although I've received amazing service in just such a situation and mainly because I mentioned something about the deficiency in a thread about the knife. But I started the thread because I was stoked on the knife not because I was disappointed in the defect. In that case, the maker contacted me!:eek: Now that is great service!
 
Willie-sausage said:
Just for the reason I stated.


Are there often flaws like this in high end custom knives?

Is it acceptable to you......do you get high end knives and find flaws like this?

It isn't acceptable to me......is it to you?
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If that's the case, why is the thread titled "Is this acceptable in a $1k knife?"

And why did you ask this question?

Willie-sausage said:
Should I be satisfied with this?
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Have you got a pic of the entire handle for us to look at? Have you contacted the maker?

Roger
 
Willie-sausage said:
Just for the reason I stated.


Are there often flaws like this in high end custom knives?

Is it acceptable to you......do you get high end knives and find flaws like this?

It isn't acceptable to me......is it to you?
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I'm pretty much of the same opinion as others here. If you bought this new from a maker and are dissatisfied because of a minor flaw, you should immediately contact the maker to correct it or take it back. Any good maker will make good on such a defect.

If, instead, you've only been "thinking" about getting in touch with the maker, you may have robbed yourself of the opportunity.

But starting a thread about it doesn't help anyone. I mean, why are you asking us "Did the maker not notice it before it left his shop?" - how would we know, ask him. Don't start a thread on it.

Bob

EDIT: And how can anyone judge anything from that pic? Could be a shadow at that scale edge, it's so fuzzy. So we are supposed to badmouth a maker along with you, for no reason?? I don't think so.
 
Lorien said:
if I got a knife directly from the maker with something that I perceived as a flaw I'd let them know before posting up a thread about it, personally.
However, buying one on the aftermarket or used, well I wouldn't expect much if anything from the maker.....
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A good maker will stand behind the quality of his work regardless of whether the knife was a direct purchase from him, a dealer sale or something bought on the secondary market.

Use does complicate the question - but only marginally so. So long as the piece has been used - but not abused - a good maker will still make right any defect in craftsmanship that emerges through the normal and intended use of his knife.

In ALL cases I would give the maker the benefit of the doubt and contact him with my concern before parading partial pics on a web forum.

Roger
 
Lorien said:
if I got a knife directly from the maker with something that I perceived as a flaw I'd let them know before posting up a thread about it, personally.
However, buying one on the aftermarket or used, well I wouldn't expect much if anything from the maker, although I've received amazing service in just such a situation and mainly because I mentioned something about the deficiency in a thread about the knife. But I started the thread because I was stoked on the knife not because I was disappointed in the defect. In that case, the maker contacted me!:eek: Now that is great service!
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I am happy with the knife for the most part.....I did not get it directly from the maker.


These types of flaws must be a common occurence and are just overlooked/tolerated because...I know this particular knife passed through a few owners hands before it got to me.

No mention was made of that particular flaw before I received/purchased it.


I also bought another high dollar knife in the last 6 months that had blade play(something that drives me insane..I am not happy with that particular knife) the previous owner made no mention of the blade play and even went so far as to say that it had no bladeplay when he had it (yeah sure it developed bladeplay in shipping)



Are these types of flaws common and or just overlooked and tolerated?
 
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