Is this Bradley normal?

dcycleman said:
well, I am sure it is what Mr. Schemp has said. thanks for the expertise by the way. The only question is wether spyderco would view these inclusions as a defect or within their specifications.
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Call them and find out. Email them a picture and see what they say. If you don't ask you'll never know. If it is within spec, you could sand the blade a little (follow the grind lines) with some 600 grit wet/dry paper.
 
Mine has two of the same dark pits you are talking about, I looked at another GB after I bought mine and it had the same thing. Spyderco said send it in and they would look at it, with a 2 to 3 week turn around and no guarantee of it not getting lost. It's a user so I decided to live with it. I really don't think it will effect the peformance or strength of the knife.
 
Sigman 40 said:
Mine has two of the same dark pits you are talking about, I looked at another GB after I bought mine and it had the same thing. Spyderco said send it in and they would look at it, with a 2 to 3 week turn around and no guarantee of it not getting lost. It's a user so I decided to live with it. I really don't think it will effect the peformance or strength of the knife.
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well, I'm guessing that there are quite a few out there with some minor inclusion pits, as you have one, have handled another, I have two, and another poster also chimed in that he also had a couple pits. mabe it was the second run of M4? oh well. mabe I'll send one in and hold onto the other and see what they do. I emailed them and got the same response as you.
 
Sigman 40 said:
Mine has two of the same dark pits you are talking about, I looked at another GB after I bought mine and it had the same thing. Spyderco said send it in and they would look at it, with a 2 to 3 week turn around and no guarantee of it not getting lost. It's a user so I decided to live with it. I really don't think it will effect the peformance or strength of the knife.
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The first part sounds about right. Everyone is getting ready for SHOT. The second part is troubling. I've sent knives in before to be cleaned and sharpened and I was never told that. I packed the knives exactly how they prefered and always mailed them USPS with DC#s. They always came back too via UPS. I'm not doubting you, but that would be a frustrating nugget of information to hear if I were in that boat.
 
RevDevil said:
The first part sounds about right. Everyone is getting ready for SHOT. The second part is troubling. I've sent knives in before to be cleaned and sharpened and I was never told that. I packed the knives exactly how they prefered and always mailed them USPS with DC#s. They always came back too via UPS. I'm not doubting you, but that would be a frustrating nugget of information to hear if I were in that boat.
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I severely doubt Spyderco would ever tell a customer that. I'm sure they told him to send it in and they'd look at it. They might have mentioned a two to three week turnaround since, as you noted, it does tend to take a bit longer at this time of year. I cannot believe they'd ever tell a customer there was no guarantee an item would not get lost. What they may have suggested was that he send it insured, in case it got lost on the way to them.

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I've got a Gayle and my friend has one as well. Neither has these "spots." These are not rust pits, but look to be air bubbles or "pinholes" in the steel that formed when the steel was melted. I'd definately call or email Spyderco. I think they need to know about this and would think they would be very interested in seeing this for themselves. They may have a bad run of steel on their hands in my opinion.
 
The Deacon said:
I severely doubt Spyderco would ever tell a customer that. I'm sure they told him to send it in and they'd look at it. They might have mentioned a two to three week turnaround since, as you noted, it does tend to take a bit longer at this time of year. I cannot believe they'd ever tell a customer there was no guarantee an item would not get lost. What they may have suggested was that he send it insured, in case it got lost on the way to them.

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That makes a lot more sense. I cannot ever see that anyone at Spyderco would say anything remotely close to that. I've called a handfull of times to inquire about products, ask about sharpenings, etc. and each time was always treated like a king.
 
vwb563 said:
I've got a Gayle and my friend has one as well. Neither has these "spots." These are not rust pits, but look to be air bubbles or "pinholes" in the steel that formed when the steel was melted. I'd definately call or email Spyderco. I think they need to know about this and would think they would be very interested in seeing this for themselves. They may have a bad run of steel on their hands in my opinion.
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they are inclusion pits. see mr Shempps post. I would not be suprised if your blade does have such inclusions, just inside, where you cant see them. all steel has irregularities at some level. its just what level is exceptable. As for the previose poster's comment about spyderco not gauranteeing his knive's safe return, I believe that this came from the poster not spyderco, probably a slight exageration of the chances taken with mailing stuff.
 
dcycleman said:
they are inclusion pits. see mr Shempps post. I would not be suprised if your blade does have such inclusions, just inside, where you cant see them. all steel has irregularities at some level. its just what level is exceptable.
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Call them what ever you want. This would not be acceptable to me. I like my knives to look good and is really the only reason I put up with stainless steels over carbon steels. I like the way they stay shinny and pretty. They sure don't perform like a good carbon steel. I just hate the way a carbon steel changes color and gets a patina to it or it would be my only steel. Anyway my Gayle does not have these "inclusion pits" visable on the outside and if it did I would be on the phone to Spyderco ASAP! :eek:
 
Does anyone know (as opposed to having an opinion) how closely related MIM technology is to the CPM powder process?
 
vwb563 said:
Call them what ever you want. This would not be acceptable to me. I like my knives to look good and is really the only reason I put up with stainless steels over carbon steels. I like the way they stay shinny and pretty. They sure don't perform like a good carbon steel. I just hate the way a carbon steel changes color and gets a patina to it or it would be my only steel. Anyway my Gayle does not have these "inclusion pits" visable on the outside and if it did I would be on the phone to Spyderco ASAP! :eek:
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Dude, we are talking about carbon steel.
 
dcycleman said:
Dude, we are talking about carbon steel.
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CrimsonTideShooter said:
Lol. I guess he doesn't know the GB comes with M4.
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Yes I know that! M4 is a carbon steel. Apparently I was totally misunderstood. My point was I like my knives to look good! I don't want one with "inclusion pits" on the blade which most likely look like oiled rust dots. (black spots) And that's why I said I put with stainless steels over carbon steels better performance. As I said, I'd be pissed if I had received this knife and would have been on the phone with Spyderco asap.
 
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