Is this the quality to be expected from Stider Knives?

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slipfirep40

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Here is my brand new buck-strider 888. Ats-34 heat treated by Paul Bos. limited edition Marine Corps commemorative #17 of 50. I hate the Idea of a safe queen so I decided to use it. Who cares if its limited edition-The EG&A just makes it all the more baddass. Well, the first real thing I do with the knife is check how it chops. I use 10-15 hits on a pine 2x4 just to get an Idea of how it chops. Not very well, but I wasnt expecting much from a knife this size. Just then I get a call from my Lt. so I stick it in the nearest tree to take his call. After I finish his call I retrieve the knife to find a large chunk missing out of the blade:



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Is this the performance to be expected from the indestructible, mystical, magical strider?
 
I think it happened while I was chopping, It was twilight out so I couldn't see very well. I wasn't looking at the knife when I stuck it into the tree (more occupied with answering my phone) so I didn't notice until I pulled it out. I wasn't able to find the piece.
 
where was the bit missing from ? pics of the damage would be a help also.
i have to say i was not too impressed with the BS blade i had either and sold it on after about a week.
 
I don't think I would chop with an ATS34 blade. ATS34 is designed for edge retension rather than chopping toughness.
 
knarfeng said:
I don't think I would chop with an ATS34 blade. ATS34 is designed for edge retension rather than chopping toughness.
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I don't think it's reasonable for a knife to fall apart like his did under such use though.
 
That is a BUCK/Strider, not a Strider. Either way, I do not think a knife should fall apart like that.
 
I don't think I would chop with an ATS34 blade. ATS34 is designed for edge retension rather than chopping toughness.
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Buck's rugged Tactical knives are engineered for trained professionals in military; law enforcement; fire, search & rescue, first response, and survival, as well as other demanding situations where "failure is not an option." Each Buck Tactical knife (also referred to as survival knife) is designed for safe deployment and is manufactured with materials that are virtually indestructible.
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This is taken directly from bucks website. For a knife that is made out of virtually indestructible materials, and who's failure is not an option, breaking after 15 chops to soft wood is not exactly inspiring. Ats-34 is what all the mystical, magical, indestructable striders used to be made of.

I agree that ats-34 is not the the best steel for chopping with, but jeeze, breaking after only 15 chops? Not very good perormance for an indestructible knife.
 
That is a BUCK/Strider, not a Strider. Either way, I do not think a knife should fall apart like that.
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How is this not a Strider? Its stamped STRIDER. It is made out of a cnc machined piece of ats-34 just like any other strider (except they have recently switched to s30v) . It has the same g10 bolted on the sides, with the same screws. This actually has the benefit of a bos heat treat, which most striders don't have. So how is this not a strider?
 
Wow. No jags visible in the photo. Almost a perfect break...more like a cut. Is Strider going to replace it for you? Also, is the retailer willing to take it back, or did you get it at the Exchange? As far as the "benefit" of a heat treat, I'm not sure I would have chosen that particular word after a break like that.
 
slipfirep40 said:
How is this not a Strider? Its stamped STRIDER. It is made out of a cnc machined piece of ats-34 just like any other strider (except they have recently switched to s30v) . It has the same g10 bolted on the sides, with the same screws. This actually has the benefit of a bos heat treat, which most striders don't have. So how is this not a strider?
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It's a collaboration piece, which (I believe) isn't made as thick as most of the regular Striders. The buck-strider seems to be Saber/Hollow ground which isn't ideal for chopping and all of the regular Striders are Saber/Flat or Full Flat ground. It's also made in larger numbers than normal Striders, which affects quality.
 
It is not made by Strider. It is made by Buck and sold by Buck.

ATS34 is not optimal for an impact tool. That factor can be compensated for by designing a fairly massive blade.

It is hollow-ground. Also not optimal for an impact tool, although great for slicing flesh.

Send it back to Buck.

You might be happier if you buy something of a shape (flat, saber, or convex ground) and material (carbon steel) more suitable for impact.

Trees have knots that are well-known to be capable of chipping out such a knife.
 
I think this is defective blade and they should and will replace it. I did chop hard wood - not a 2x4 but dried bush branches about 1-2" thick and had no such problem.

So far this is first report of this nature forfew years it is on the market.

Strider has HT set up by Bos because Buck moved out if CA, befor it was all heat treated by Bos, but all custom Striders are heat treated by Bos even now.

I understand why you are not happy, but before you break several 888 this way there is no reason to blame all Buck 888s as not good.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
According to promo literature:

Extremely durable, tactical fixed blade for application where "failure is not an option." Features a 4.75" drop point blade with full tang. G10 handles ensure a good grip in every situation. Includes a Cordura sheath with molded Kydex Liner. ... Strider and Buck's collaboration resulted in knives built to exceed their use in situations with a quality normally reserved for custom-made knives.
 
that's bizarre. the "chip" is so perfect, it looks like its supposed to be there as a choil.
 
Send it back to Buck instead of argueing on the net about it and you'll find out.
 
slipfirep40 said:
How is this not a Strider? Its stamped STRIDER. It is made out of a cnc machined piece of ats-34 just like any other strider (except they have recently switched to s30v) . It has the same g10 bolted on the sides, with the same screws. This actually has the benefit of a bos heat treat, which most striders don't have. So how is this not a strider?
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It is a Buck/Strider! It is made by Buck AND sold by Buck, NOT Strider!!Therefore is NOT a full on Strider!! Strider does NOT use ATS-34 on any of their knives either. The majority of them are S30V.
 
that really looks like it's supposed to be there.

i have a buck strider 889, which i think of as a buck. send it back. i would rather get my money back than a replacement, that's just me.
 
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