It followed me home (Part 2)

[garry3]

I felt uncomfortable with stating 1909 so added the question mark. Folks can make their own determination.
Here is a source for the catalog:

Price List of D. R. Barton Brand Edge Tools : Mack & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

catalogue of D. R. Barton edge tools

archive.org

IDK - that is a difficult article for me to figure out the Barton tools evolution.
However, this part seems consistent with 1909 being in the "ballpark":
"Two partners, William R. Mack and Royal L. Mack, took the company over in 1874 and renamed it Mack & Co. They continued to use the original name as a trademark until 1923."


What "later date" are you referring to?

From another Mack & Co / D R Barton catalog:

Here is a D R Barton mark on a turning gouge that I have been unable to place:

Bob

I was referring to the date on the catalog or later because the Davistown article said this...

"At that point he started stamping his tools D.R. Barton 1832 verses the Mack's were still making tools as D.R. Barton and Company. On April 26th 1875 he passed away after a short illness. His wife and son sold the company back to the Mack's a year later and they used his name for about 5 more years."

That didn't sound right.

I have noticed different stamps on Barton's I will start paying more attention to them. The similarity to the LI & J White trade mark is also interesting.

 

[Miller '72]

I was referring to the date on the catalog or later because the Davistown article said this...

"At that point he started stamping his tools D.R. Barton 1832 verses the Mack's were still making tools as D.R. Barton and Company. On April 26th 1875 he passed away after a short illness. His wife and son sold the company back to the Mack's a year later and they used his name for about 5 more years."

That didn't sound right.

I have noticed different stamps on Barton's I will start paying more attention to them. The similarity to the LI & J White trade mark is also interesting.

I may have an 1870's DR Barton and Mack catalog reprinted in the 1960's i believe.

I will take a look and get something posted up from it

 

[the-accumulator]

I went "Junquing" today! Six antique stores, three pawn shops and an "indoor flea market":





My best guess dates the blade in that straight razor to the latter part of the eighteenth century, with the handle having been replaced many decades later. I had a good day! T-A

 

[Miller '72]

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My best guess dates the blade in that straight razor to the latter part of the eighteenth century, with the handle having been replaced many decades later. I had a good day! T-A

Love the plumb take up eedge (screw)
Thats very cool

 

[Miller '72]

I was referring to the date on the catalog or later because the Davistown article said this...

"At that point he started stamping his tools D.R. Barton 1832 verses the Mack's were still making tools as D.R. Barton and Company. On April 26th 1875 he passed away after a short illness. His wife and son sold the company back to the Mack's a year later and they used his name for about 5 more years."

That didn't sound right.

I have noticed different stamps on Barton's I will start paying more attention to them. The similarity to the LI & J White trade mark is also interesting.

Planes, many planes. Coopers tools, and many great pieces from yesterday.

 

[the-accumulator]

Love the plumb take up eedge (screw)
Thats very cool

The screw was my first clue that the haft might be original. I'm not sure that you can read it in the picture, but the haft is also stamped with "OFFICIAL SCOUT AXE". There is also evidence of green paint, by I don't know whether or not that was original or even intentional. My plan is to give it all a light cleaning, file down the mushrooming at the pole, and appreciate all the rest as "patina". It's a survivor! T-A

 

[Miller '72]

The screw was my first clue that the haft might be original. I'm not sure that you can read it in the picture, but the haft is also stamped with "OFFICIAL SCOUT AXE". There is also evidence of green paint, by I don't know whether or not that was original or even intentional. My plan is to give it all a light cleaning, file down the mushrooming at the pole, and appreciate all the rest as "patina". It's a survivor! T-A

Its going to look great

 

[rjdankert]

"At that point he started stamping his tools D.R. Barton 1832 verses the Mack's were still making tools as D.R. Barton and Company. On April 26th 1875 he passed away after a short illness. His wife and son sold the company back to the Mack's a year later and they used his name for about 5 more years."

That didn't sound right.

I agree. I would like to see some more information about the relationship between the Macks and the Bartons regarding trademarks and what is meant by "used his name for about 5 more years".



Bob

 

[rjdankert]

Planes, many planes. Coopers tools, and many great pieces from yesterday.

Please share the cooper's tools content in the catalog.

Cooper's tools are esoteric and interesting to me. I made a bucket a few years ago at a Tillers International class with hand tools and have a small collection of cooper's tools. I have never seen a Mack & Co. tool (or advertisement) specifically for a coopering tool.



Bob

 

[Miller '72]

Please share the cooper's tools content in the catalog.

Cooper's tools are esoteric and interesting to me. I made a bucket a few years ago at a Tillers International class with hand tools and have a small collection of cooper's tools. I have never seen a Mack & Co. tool (or advertisement) specifically for a coopering tool.



Bob

Sorry it was early and i must have mistaken myself

Sorry about that Bob!

 

[rjdankert]

Sorry it was early and i must have mistaken myself

Sorry about that Bob!

Of course. Who doesn't?
No cooper's tools - no problem. I would have been quite surprised/enlightened if Mack & Co. made any, but I'm not sure what to make of all the catalog pictures in the response. That catalog looks basically the same (illustrations and prices) as in the link I posted (#11,100) for the Mack/Barton catalog in archive.org.



Bob

 

[Miller '72]

Of course. Who doesn't?
No cooper's tools - no problem. I would have been quite surprised/enlightened if Mack & Co. made any, but I'm not sure what to make of all the catalog pictures in the response. That catalog looks basically the same (illustrations and prices) as in the link I posted (#11,100) for the Mack/Barton catalog in archive.org.



Bob

Yes i believe its the same in circulation you have linked to. Just i have the reprinted copy and wanted to share a bit of it.
I like pictures.

 

[Miller '72]

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[Miller '72]

It Found My Home...

 

[garry3]

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My best guess dates the blade in that straight razor to the latter part of the eighteenth century, with the handle having been replaced many decades later. I had a good day! T-A

Nice hall, that straight razor is really interesting.
William Hutchinson owned the pipe trademark before it being acquired by George Worstenholm in the 1840's. I don't know anything about Hutchinson or how far back the pipe stamp was used.

STRAZORS.com - all about classic razors - Home page

 

[garry3]

Of course. Who doesn't?
No cooper's tools - no problem. I would have been quite surprised/enlightened if Mack & Co. made any, but I'm not sure what to make of all the catalog pictures in the response. That catalog looks basically the same (illustrations and prices) as in the link I posted (#11,100) for the Mack/Barton catalog in archive.org.



Bob

Cooper tools in this catalog...

Catalogue and Price List of Genuine D.R. Barton Planes, Edge Tools, Etc. Made Only by Mack & Co. : Mack & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

76 p., illus., 22.6 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

 

[garry3]

Not a very target rich Enviromint around here. I did pick up this number 4 DR Barton. Some idiot has beat the hell out of the hardened poll.
It's a pretty hefty for a hatchet so pretty sure these were used two handed. Anyone know how these were originally hafted?

This axe is missing the date in the middle of the stamp, could be it has been warn off but maybe not....

 

[crbnSteeladdict]

This axe is missing the date in the middle of the stamp, could be it has been warn off but maybe not...

Looks like there were oval maker's marks without 1832 date, too

 

[garry3]

Looks like there were oval maker's marks without 1832 date, too

Humm..
Not sure what to make of it, perhaps pre 1873?
I think there is a book out there on Barton tool history, I will see if I can get it.

 

[Ernest DuBois]

I think it's the axe - not literally of course - Bronson is using to split wood in, The Magnificent Seven. Which by the way makes an interesting -axe / splitting- comparison to the same scene from the original Japanese version by A. Kurosawa.