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A little history

I happen to like the paramilitary 2 and have over the course of the past year have managed to purchase 4 of them in different steels as each one dulled (well that's what I said was the reason for the next purchase)

After the third one she said why don't you just sharpen then I told her I needed to buy a sharpener and it would cost roughly $500

Her eyes bugged out of her head and said that's ridiculous

Well the KW CF M4 came home recently and that was the straw that broke the camels back

If your just going to keep buying new ones as the others get dull then buy the knife sharpener

Fast forward to today

I'm thinking the field and stream pro version is the better value

Gen 3 clamp
Upgraded arms
Grit stones from 200-1000
 
Or you could just send them to Jason B.to be professionally sharpened at $10 per knife and in the mean time buy a Spyderco SharpMaker. After that just touch em up on the SharpMaker. They offer diamond rods as well.
Total investment under well under $200
And your knives will stay screamin sharp. At least mine have.
 
If you really want the Wicked Edge, buy it. Personally, though, I like MacLaren1's suggestion. Jason will give you an accurate angle to match the Sharpmaker so you can maintain the edge he gives you with a SM. Add in some strops for refining the edge and you're G-T-G.
 
Sharpmaker is a good idea. Some folks buy the fancy stuff and end up hand-sharpening anyway...for convenience.
P.S. Sharpmaker is NOT fancy, but it's darn good equipment and easy to set up and use and store away again when done.
...and it's cheap compared to the fancy stuff.
 
kvanpacker said:
A little history

I happen to like the paramilitary 2 and have over the course of the past year have managed to purchase 4 of them in different steels as each one dulled (well that's what I said was the reason for the next purchase)

After the third one she said why don't you just sharpen then I told her I needed to buy a sharpener and it would cost roughly $500

Her eyes bugged out of her head and said that's ridiculous

Well the KW CF M4 came home recently and that was the straw that broke the camels back

If your just going to keep buying new ones as the others get dull then buy the knife sharpener

Fast forward to today

I'm thinking the field and stream pro version is the better value

Gen 3 clamp
Upgraded arms
Grit stones from 200-1000
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You're probably right that the F&S model is the better value, if you want the Gen 3. clamp and arm upgrade. (Not saying that the original clamp system doesn't work just as well).

You may also want to take a look at the KME system... basically the same principle, without the larger investment (for example, not having to buy 2 of every stone). May take a bit longer to sharpen a blade, but it'll do the job... especially if you're just planning on keeping a few knives for yourself sharp.

There are many paths to sharp! :)
 
What MacLaren and Sonnydaze recommended is a good idea. However, if you chip, roll, or otherwise damage your edge then you have to send it right back to Jason to be fixed.

I recommend getting the diamond rods for the Sharpmaker and learning to reprofile using those (practice on something cheap, NOT your PM2's!). It's nice to know if you damage your edge you can bring it back to life yourself without having to ship it off to someone to have it fixed.

FWIW, I was convinced I needed either a WE or EdgePro, but after learning to use my Sharpmaker I've been able to keep all my knives very sharp and without dropping $400-500. I hope to eventually move to freehand sharpening.
 
I'm a little on the side of get the Wicked Edge Field & Stream for the reasons mentioned. I bought one 3 months ago so I don't need to be without my knives, don't need to worry about damage or loss in the mailing system, which yes is rare. Nonetheless, my Field and Steam has been a dream. I can put any type of an edge I want to on any given knife. Laser line mirror finish, gorgeous! Or a nice toothy 600 or 800 grit. No problem at all. Sharpen other peoples knives too. Be ready to spends hundreds more if you really want to get advanced with it. Stropping paddles; leather, kangaroo, micro cloth with all manners of pastes and sprays ranging from .025 micron all the way up to 400 grit pastes, glass platens with an array of lapping films, empty platens to put your own stones into or whatever you want on them. Someone is even making outrageously priced Shapton stones for it also. I could go on for hours talking about all the possibilities. And I have most of the stuff too. Serrations cannot be dealt with very well to date that I'm aware of. And, full flat ground Spyderco's can be troublesome to get aligned properly into the clamp. That is one thing I really hate about it actually. But I've done it somehow and it's worked out quite well. For some silly reason though, as someone wisely mentioned above, I purchased a Norton IM-313 system with the upgraded Arkansas stones and plan to move onto hand sharpening, because I mostly hand strop anyways. Who would have thought?
 
Well I ordered my wicked edge F&S pro

Should have it Tuesday

I have a benchmade Stryker or my s110v manix to learn on

I might bust out my buck s110 to learn on first though
 
Well I ordered my wicked edge F&S pro

Should have it Tuesday

I have a benchmade Stryker or my s110v manix to learn on

I might bust out my buck s110 to learn on first though

I think I'll model the blade of the PM 2 and then 3D print some spacers to help with the non parallel geometry for the clamp
 
It s a great system. Relatively short learning curve and great reproducible results for each blade. Just keep a record of the angle and clamp position for each blade.
There aren't t many very expensive things that I think are worth the money, including some iconic knife brands. I think the WE is worth the price. It turns a mediocre knife sharpener into a very good one.
 
Well if you've got a 3D printer then I don't think you would have been happy with anything but a WE :) I've got the WE ProPack 2 and love it-I also have the Sharpmaker and it was pretty good but I had to buy the diamond rods because I just got worn out trying to re-profile a blade. Even after buying the super fine rods and making a couple of strops I knew there was a better way so I bit the bullet and have been happy ever since.

Enjoy your new tool!
 
petrosil said:
Well if you've got a 3D printer then I don't think you would have been happy with anything but a WE :) I've got the WE ProPack 2 and love it-I also have the Sharpmaker and it was pretty good but I had to buy the diamond rods because I just got worn out trying to re-profile a blade. Even after buying the super fine rods and making a couple of strops I knew there was a better way so I bit the bullet and have been happy ever since.

Enjoy your new tool!
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Don't have a 3D printer at home

But I have access to one at work

I will have one at home in the next couple of years though

Probably an lulzbot taz 6
 
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What I've learned

Knife placement in the clamp is important for the grind on the tip, I have it shaving sharp all the way along straight edge of blade but I think I needed to put the knife back a little farther in the clamp the tip is sharp but not like the straight portion

I'll try again tonight with that blade and start over again

Overall very happy with purchase

I can't freehand sharpen worth a damn but this really makes it easy to get a heck of an edge
 
Nice.

I have the Wicked Edge Field and Sport that came out before the Gen 3 clamp.

What I use my WE for is to set the angles to 18* per side. Then I use my Sharpmaker 40* setting (20* per side) to put on a micro bevel. This also makes touch ups super easy.

I'm really interested in the Gen 3 clamp. I can add it to mine for $199.

These guys have lots of useful video tips and tricks for the Wicked Edge you might find useful.

https://m.youtube.com/user/razoredgeknives

https://m.youtube.com/user/jdavis882

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
I used neodymium magnets to catch as much fillings as possible

And wow did they

Only problem is they have such a strong force they pull the stones to the knife

The magnets would hold the stones to the blade if I let go of them
 
kvanpacker said:
What I've learned

Knife placement in the clamp is important for the grind on the tip, I have it shaving sharp all the way along straight edge of blade but I think I needed to put the knife back a little farther in the clamp the tip is sharp but not like the straight portion

I'll try again tonight with that blade and start over again

Overall very happy with purchase

I can't freehand sharpen worth a damn but this really makes it easy to get a heck of an edge
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Looks like you've got a good idea on this... in case you haven't seen it, check out the W.E. Instructions Page... in particular... Positioning the Knife Front to Back.

You might also consider putting something behind the sharpener, for the rods to rest on. (Rods or stones sliding down scratching the table might make your other half reconsider). :rolleyes:

Looks good!
 
cbwx34 said:
Looks like you've got a good idea on this... in case you haven't seen it, check out the W.E. Instructions Page... in particular... Positioning the Knife Front to Back.

You might also consider putting something behind the sharpener, for the rods to rest on. (Rods or stones sliding down scratching the table might make your other half reconsider). :rolleyes:

Looks good!
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Thanks

Did a large carving knife last night

This is the easiest way to sharpen a knife there is, and get scary sharp edge

Now I just need to save up for 1200/1600 stones and get some strops and I'm polishing
 
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