It's a good day (to make knives for my JS test) Professional photos added

Great pics Mark. Thanks for posting them. I like the knives a lot and I can't wait to see them finished with that excellent material.

I wish you the best of luck, but I think you'll do just fine.

Enjoy your day ice fishing.....you deserve it. :)
 
Here's a fishing report.
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I smoked some of those fish.
 
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Impressive! Flys? What do you use to clean them?

I used jigs and flies I tied. That's a Quartz lake grand slam, rainbows, silvers, one chinook and one arctic char. I use a ratty old fillet knife I made years ago. Its well used and beat up, I'd be ashamed to show it. Maybe I'll make myself a new one. I did two of these whole for baking or BBQing, filleted five or six for beer batter and the rest for smoking.
 
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Here's the line-up of cutters for the performance test. These are all ready for finish grinding except the top one, it has been finish ground and sharpened, it cuts rope really well. I'm going to redo the second one from the bottom because the heat treat line is uneven and might be a little high at the point of the bend in the bend test. Four of these will be used for practice and checking my heat treat, the best of them will be saved for the performance test in April.

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Here's the line-up of submission knives. They've all been through differential heat treat and are ready for finish grinding and hand sanding. The top one has been finish ground and I started hand sanding it. I'll pick the best five of these for submission in June.

Thanks for watching.
 
Thanks Justin.

I'm alternating between finish grinding on the 2' X 72" grinder and hand sanding so I don't get burned out on one or the other, as opposed to finish grinding all the blades first and leaving only the hand sanding.

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Here's my hand sanding set-up. While not sophisticated it does the job for me. It's a "Jaw Horse" with a backer board under the blade.

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I use a hard maple sanding stick to help keep my corners crisp. I usually finish grind through all the grits to 400 on the grinder and then back-up a grit to 320 when I start hand sanding. I will hand sand all the way through the grits to 1200 grit.

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This triangle at the end of the ricasso is a place where some makers forget to sand but it can be an important detail.
 
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With every new grit I start by sanding at a diagonal (shown at the lower end of this blade) for a few reasons; it's much easier to see where you have sanded with the new grit if your sanding strokes are not all the same direction, it's easier to make sure you have gotten rid of all the scratches from the previous grit if they're not all the same direction. It's easier to get rid of irregularities like deep scratches if you go at an angle to them and, you can remove metal faster if you change the direction of your sanding strokes.

After I make sure I've gotten rid of all the scratches from the previous grit, I sand the blade again along the length of the blade with the same grit just used until all the diagonal scratches are gone.

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After sanding this blade to 1200 grit, I have decided to go to 1500 but not today.
 
Looking real good Mark. You did a fine job on the filleting, and I'll be everything will taste awesome!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Mark,

Thanks for taking the time to share all of this with us. A WIP like this is a large time investment and we all appreciate it.

Gary
 
Thanks Ben, STeven, Don and Gary. I appreciate it.

Here's the thing, I finished the blade to 1500 grit but learned really fast how easily a blade that finely finished can pick up scratched from the most benign things. I will probably knock the finish back a couple of grits to make sure I don't have a problem at judging time.

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For the final finish sanding I made a rubber pad sanding stick. The rubber evenly distributes the pressure over the whole surface giving an even finish over the whole blade. It would be a mistake to use the rubber pad on all of the sanding because it would round over the corners. I think crisp corners are called for in knives for judging.

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Here's one of the smaller blades. I found that there were no irregularities like divots or deep scratches in the smaller blade so diagonal sanding wasn't needed. I used straight strokes throughout and it looks great.
 
For a knife newbie like myself, this thread is an eye opener. Mark, really appreciate for your sharing and good luck in your test. Thank you.
 
For a knife newbie like myself, this thread is an eye opener. Mark, really appreciate for your sharing and good luck in your test. Thank you.

Thank you and your welcomed.

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Here's my grinding set-up. Mine is a Bader variable speed. With the file guide in place to aid in nice plunges I have gone through all the grits to 400.

This is a good time to talk about "Two-inch-itis". Two-inch-itis is an affliction that befalls the young and the old, male and female knife makers. It is the groove that sometimes occurs two inches away from the plunge line because most of us use two inch wide belt sanders to grind knives. If you use a one inch belt sander you may find yourself coming down with One-inch-itis. You can catch two-inch-itis in a few ways, it usually occurs when we are concentrating on making a good plunge line if we try to plunge straight into the blade. It can also happen if you grind for a while with the belt not centered on the platen. Most of the belt gets warn down except a small band of grit on the edge of the belt. When you center the belt to work on the plunge, that un-warn band of abrasive becomes a high spot that makes a groove across your blade. Another thing that happens is when we have the whole thing almost done and we go back to work on the plunge a little more, if we don't take care to plunge straight in, the high spot of the ricasso causes the blade to cant against the belt causing the tell-tail groove two inches from the plunge line.

It can be difficult to see the groove, or any irregularities in the blade with all the lines running across the blade but as soon as you start to hand sand along the length of the blade they become obvious, if they are there. Its best to go back to the belt sander with a new belt on it and massage out the groove and any other ripples. It's near impossible to hand sand out the groove, you mostly end up with a polished groove.

Dull belts cause divots and you lose your ability to control the grind, so to prevent having to chase divots around, replace the belts when they start to get dull. The best way to prevent two-inch-itis, and to remove it when it happens is keep the blade moving on the belt, don't stay in one place very long at all. It's hard to do when you're working on the plunge but it works better if you plunge in and then work out to the end in one fluid movement.

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The tables on most 2 X 72 knife grinders are too small to grind the profile of the blade properly. I made a bigger table by welding a couple of small "C" clamps to a steel plate. It clamps to the tool rest on the Bader.

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The large table makes it easy to grind the profiles square and straight on even the biggest knives.

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After the profiles are done, I use an adjustable angle rest to grind the false edges. I welded this one up using scrap steel, the angle can be adjusted by loosening a bolt under the table.

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This blade is ready for hand sanding.

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Normalizing as I described earlier helps prevent warping during heat treating. Sometimes during finish grinding, on the grinder, stresses are relieved that cause the blade to warp, this one warped just the slightest bit. It's not a problem to straighten them up with a manual arbor press without the risk of snapping them when they are deferentially heat treated


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This one is sanded just like the others.

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Here it is sanded to 800 grit. On the last two grits I make the last strokes straight and deliberate to make a nice uniform, straight scratch pattern. At this point, you have to put paper towel under the blade when you clamp it down to sand it, if you don't, the backer board will scratch the side you just finished.

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These three are ready for handles.

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In the mean time, it's time to put more trout in the smoker.

More later, thanks for watching.
 
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Very nice to see your methods, thanks for taking the time and effort. I am enjoying the process!

Steve
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