It's always the mundane, day-to-day stuff that gets you.

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This isn't directly wilderness related, but it's definitely survival related. I was thinking about how the information I'm about to write down might apply to everyone here and I think the lesson you can take from it is that the times you need to be the most careful are the times when you feel like nothing could possibly go wrong!

It's sort of like how people slip in the bathtub and die all the time, and are the victims of home invasions with statistical rarity, and yet I've got about five thousand times as much money and effort and training into my guns as I do my bathtub, which has some suction-cuppy things in it for grip, but which always migrate to the low end.

Anyway, let me tell you what happened at my work last week.


Our first aid person at work asked me to give her a quick hand the other day. I was not very busy and more importantly wasn't enjoying the task I was on, so I happily went along. We've been friends for the last two years, since she was just a flag girl (well, flag woman, she's about forty) when I was doing the pile driving at the beginning of the job. We used to rib her endlessly, but she never took offense. At first, I didn't really like her much, but she was such a good sport about the constant verbal abuse she took from the guys (pretty rough bunch on the pile driving crews) that I developed a real respect for her. Then, when she got her level 3 first aid certification and they promoted her, I was really happy for her. She was always a lot of fun to have around.

So she asked me to help her take a sign down on the site. Our site is about 20 km long, so it was a good drive down to the sign. When we got there, I was surprised at how sturdy the frame they'd built for it was. It was made of three-inch angle iron, just to hold up a sign. Anyway, it was a big 8'x8' square, bolted together and braced to some horizontal sections that were attached to the ground with 5/8" stainless anchors. A big mass of steel! Still, it was tiny compared to everything we'd done pile driving, of course. We decided to just unbolt it and let it tip over, and send a boom truck for it later.

I undid all the bolts except one at the base on one side. We still couldn't push it over, so I said, "I'll slack that last bolt off a little, and it'll go." There was a slight lean developing to the south, so I thought it would fall that way. I checked out the north side as well, just in case. There was nothing in either direction, so I backed off the bolt a tiny bit, ready to step aside when it started to go.

It didn't tip right away, though, I guess because of the shape of the frame. It was about 6" wide at the bottom, being back-to-back 3" angle iron. I kept loosening off the bolt. Then I realized it was tipping a bit to the north. I wasn't worried, though, because I'd already had a look to make sure there was nothing to fall on. I started to pull my tools out, and while I was picking them up, the first aid person started to push it back to the south. I couldn't see her because of my hard hat's brim. All of a sudden I just heard her say, "I can't hold it up."

I looked up and realized she stepped into the path of the frame which was tipping north and starting to move. I shouted "get back, just drop it!" but she wasn't fast enough. She got 90% out of the way, and then it came down on her leg.

I grabbed the frame and picked it up. She pulled her leg out and I could see that it was just dangling, mid calf. "Just lie down," I said. "I'll call for an ambulance." I called 911 and they were pretty quick, although of course it felt like forever. I took off my coat and covered her up so she wouldn't get too cold, and just crouched there, talking to her, and trying to keep her distracted. It was very frustrating to not be able to do anything. She tried to sit up and take a look at it, but I told her to just stay in position. "Remember how I broke my ankle?" I said. "If you move around, all that will happen is that it will ache more. There's nothing to see anyway. It's just a garden variety break. I know it hurts, but just stay calm. You're not in any danger and the ambulance is on the way."

Unfortunately it was a severe compound fracture and her pants were slowly turning red, but of course I didn't want her to know that. The bleeding wasn't fast enough to worry about and the hospital was six blocks away, so I knew that wasn't a serious concern. I just wanted to keep her still and distracted. So I argued with her about her details for the 911 people. "You aren't forty," I said. "Why did you make me tell them that?" (I had said she was thirty, which I knew wasn't true. I also guessed she would correct me on the spot.) "You just don't want anyone to know you had a kid at fifteen," I said.

I felt terrible, though. She was clearly in pain (although handling it incredibly well) and about all I could do was hold her hand.

About the only bright side was the fact that the roads were empty and the hospital was totally empty of patients as well. There were for doctors standing around waiting for her to arrive (I beat the ambulance and waited around for a minute with them telling them everything I could.)

That was last tuesday. She is still in the hospital (although she is stable and the main surgery was done on the first day). They said she will be fine but might need skin grafts to close everything up. The section where the steel hit was pretty mangled.



So, what did I learn? A lot of things, most of them pretty unpleasant.

I'm used to working with guys who would NEVER, EVER get in the way of falling ANYTHING. We were all pile drivers and ANYTHING that falls is an automatic RUN.

but

Not everyone has that training and experience. In fact, as the Worker's Comp investigator told me, he has seen countless accidents where people ran to stop a falling object or rolling vehicle, and were crushed.

and

I should have taken the time to think about who I was working with, instead of just treating her like the guys. OF COURSE she doesn't have the same responses as us, as I should have known and thought about.

I should have thought about the risks inherent to the job more. It seemed so minor compared to the big stuff we're used to...just a humdrum, mundane task. Pull the bolts, step aside. Let it go. Have coffee. But NOTHING can be considered safe just because it is routine. If that frame had fallen on her back, she would be paralyzed or dead. I just did not think carefully enough about the task. I felt about how I'd feel about backing up a truck - obviously there is SOME inherent risk, but what are the odds? But that attitude cost her, in a big way. I wish I had given it more thought, but I just didn't.

When we went back later to pick up the frame, we found it weighed about five hundred pounds. In fact the welder who was going to cut it up couldn't move it at all, and I could lift it a bit at one end, but barely. But man, when it was on her leg, I picked it up so easily I hardly noticed it. The next day, my hamstrings were torn to bits, my back hurt, and my biceps as well. But at the time I didn't even realize I was lifting a heavy object on account of the adrenaline.



So be careful out there, guys. You could be doing something that seems very routine and dull, but it may be more dangerous than you think, by far. And the worst part is, you might not get hurt yourself, you might just have to watch someone else get hurt, and then think about why you didn't take the extra precautions that would have protected them.
 
She's lucky you were there. Someone else might have frozen when she was hurt. Lesson learned, remember it but also remember you reacted correctly.
I hope she heals properly and you do as well. These things sometimes have a worse affect on the person that wasn't injured.
Thanks for the reminder. Safety first as they say.
 
complacency on a job that can be considered routine often leads to hazardous results. or something like that for a thesis statement in a paper i read. though it applied here sorta. i hope she does well. and yeah, adrenaline will do that to a guy. good work on helping her out bro.:thumbup:
 
Yikes! Could have been a lot worse, you might have saved her life by not freezing up, slack jawed. A lot of people would have not reacted at all.
 
Had a friend who was running a crew to pick grapes. Did his mandatory safety meeting with the crew, advising everyone of what not to do, especially to stay clear of the tires on the gondolas being pulled by a wheel tractor hauling all the grapes. 5 min. after the meeting one of his guys got run over by the tire and died. Sometimes, it just happens. I'm sorry for you and your friend.
 
Wow. All of us who work with heavy stuff sympathise.

Gesturing, "don't let that heavy thing crush you, if it falls." I have said that many times.
 
I can sympathize with that situation. I've worked around quite a bit of equipment and construction, etc and it doesn't take much for something to go from routine to very interesting.
 
I hope your friend feels better soon...but I have to say, I think you are being a bit hard on yourself. The way I have just read your post, you are stating a bunch of ways that YOU could have done something differently...now, maybe you should have done something better..but, IMO, it takes no training to see something BIG and HEAVY coming down, and get out of the way. In fact, to get IN the way of it, is not in basic human nature.
Dont be so hard on yourself, stuff happens. Gene
 
Man, hope your lucky friend(for just getting a broken leg, and for having someone there strong enough to get her out) makes a full recovery, and I hope after your recent incident the hamstring and back aren't serious.

I had a moment the other day when my mate and I were trying to get a hydraulic rotary-hoe into a raised garden bed via some timber ramps. He was in control and asked me to help by pulling it up the ramp, I stood with one leg in between the ramps as I started to pull the machine suddenly got some grip and shot up the ramps, I just got my leg out in time or it would have jammed my leg against the retaining wall and snapped it mid-thigh.

Man the adrenalin was pumping after I realised how close it was. My mate had no idea.
 
wow.. what an experience...:eek: you did the right thing, by keepinhg her calm and distracted from her injury..:thumbup:

things could have always been much worse... i hope your friend heals okay...:)
 
Excellent story Misanthropist. I think your opening lines pretty much sums it up. Unfortunately the truth is - that favorite workman's safety saying - 'There are no accidents' is a slogan designed to instill a safety ethic but the truth of the matter is that stuff happens.

Even when you are trained to react, your instincts can take over and cause a misguided action when the mind wanders. This risk increases when you perform repetitive activities. The mind gets overconfident on the outcome and doesn't react as easily to alterations in the pattern. The classic example is driving to work which is where most people succumbing to sudden fatal accidents draw their unlucky number.
 
Excellent story Misanthropist. I think your opening lines pretty much sums it up. Unfortunately the truth is - that favorite workman's safety saying - 'There are no accidents' is a slogan designed to instill a safety ethic but the truth of the matter is that stuff happens.

Even when you are trained to react, your instincts can take over and cause a misguided action when the mind wanders. This risk increases when you perform repetitive activities. The mind gets overconfident on the outcome and doesn't react as easily to alterations in the pattern. The classic example is driving to work which is where most people succumbing to sudden fatal accidents draw their unlucky number.

Your mention of perishing while driving to work rings so true...I commute daily, and I see alot of accidents..MA drivers are pretty bad, I am from here and have lived elsewhere..its not just the drivers though...the road system here is laughable...really bad. Stop signs at on ramps to the highway!!:eek: is just one example..anyway...sorry to vent, but I often think as I leave my home..early in the morning..looking at my family sleeping, "is this the day some asshat falls asleep at the wheel and kills me.." Anyway..stuff happens, I have been lucky this year..I have only been to the ER once, and I recovered quickly..just yesterday a guy fell out of a second story window on my job...he was trying to jump down to some staging and missed..fell all the way down..it was a long way, there was an embankment at the bottom. he landed on his feet and rolled backwards, down the hill...other than a cut on his elbow, he was fine!! I called him superman the rest of the day.
 
Misanthropist, I know what you're feeling, but really, you did nothing wrong and did the best thing waiting with her. Sorry to hear it happened though. I've found that I mess things up when I get complacent (speaking in reference to her, not you).

Amen to the power of an adrenalin rush. I try to stay calm and gentle, but I've literally scared myself with some of the things I've done on an adrenalin rush (take it from a guy who can deadlift 500 pounds).
 
misanthropist, this is a great topic...especially for me. I currently up at Fort Lewis, WA running a validation exercise for a small unit. We deal with a lot of powered systems, antenna masts (15 and even a 30 meter mast:eek:)...several big pieces of moving equipment, stress, little sleep and young Soldiers is always a challenge. Most of the time our "work sites" in Iraq/Afghanistan typically have guys shooting at your or trying to blow you up...that usually keeps most alert and assessing the risk of operation; unfortunately we often let our guard down back home when we are training and that's when people get hurt.

Our job, much like yours and several others, are inherently dangerous, but that doesn't mean you have to accept serious injuries or even a death. We have so many systems and tools to identify and mitigate risk and develop and incorporate control measures to place more focus and attention on the riskier activities; and then empower our junior leaders to always make safe decisions and stop any actions that may lead to an accident...they are never questioned if they made the proper assessment and made that decision.

This easily applies to WSS...survival is about assessing situations, mitigating risk and developing control measure to hopefully make a bad or potentially bad situation for getting worse or life threatening.

You knew all the safety checks and how to handle that job; your nurse friend didn’t' and it's so easy sometimes to forget that. Heck, even the "new guys" often need more supervision. I've been in the Army for over 20 years and I often take for granted that some young Soldier or Lieutenant are conducting operations to my level of detail...it really requires a lot of teaching, coaching and mentoring, but the same applies as we look around us and make sure we are staying alert and that those that are with us understand what's going on and what to look out for.

I truly hope she gets back on her feet soon...

ROCK6
 
i am a construction safety manager for a large national general contractor and see these situations often. i investigate accidents and have on occasion dealt with the fatalities as well. ironworkers, piledrivers, pipefitters, carpenters, electricians from large highway projects to commercial high rises and nuclear facilities have filled my life all across the country for the last 12 years. it never ceases to amaze me how many tradesmen dont think that when we bring order out of chaos that things dont sometime go catastrophically wrong. pre task planning is always effective to make sure that each person doing a mundane task has all pertinent info to the inherrent dangers. hell sometimes i cant walk and talk on the cell phone at the same time let alone call in a 100,000 lb crane load or set demolitions without making some mistakes. just realize that you reacted well and were there to help your "partner"; now use this situation to spread the word as your crews are at mass safety meetings and talking while someone else is speaking or rolling their eyes when in a site orientation or becoming belligerent when a person reminds them to put their seatbelt on in a piece of equipment. we are all out there together and we all have different experinces and have seen different things.

remember it all can go wrong in the blink of an eye.

also were not all safety nazis

good luck,

ryan
 
The message of not trying to stop things that are falling is so right on.

When I was in high school, working at a resturaunt, I watched a kid working the deep fryer. He was taking fish out of athe fryer with tongs, the tongs slipped out of his hand, into the fryer(450 deg?) and he impulsively stuck his hand into the oil to grab them out !

Holf crap did he holler ! Lesson learned. He was ok in the long run.
 
Thanks for all your support, guys. It's hard not to blame yourself a bit I guess, but of course you can't take responsibility for everything that happens at your worksite... Still it's a hard lesson learned. I am going to try to see her in the hospital today and see how she is doing.

Rock6, your active duty to training complacency difficulties are probably a good parallel to our situation, too. All of what we would consider the high-stress parts of the job are over, and there is has developed a real sense of relaxation and complacency about the hazards at work. Man, did that ever bite us hard.

One thing I am finding strange in all this is that I honestly expected everyone to put the blame 100% on me, from the woman who was injured to the WCB investigators to everyone at work that likes her, but nobody has, except for me of course! I haven't changed my mind any about how I think the responsibility breaks down in this situation but the main thing is that she seems to be getting better and as long as she gets healthy, I don't mind feeling guilty - that's a small price to pay!

The WCB people have come by a few times to talk to me, but not to give me a hard time, just to make sure I was okay. Apparently it's fairly common for situations like this to "multiply" as they said, as the person who was there feels responsible and can't keep their mind on their work, or starts drinking more and has an accident and gets hurt themself. I haven't done anything like that and I am being more careful than ever but the attention being focused on me there is making me feel more guilty! I asked them to stop checking up on me and devote the resources to the injured woman but of course it doesn't work that way. Anyway I appreciate all your thoughts! And stay safe out there team!

Particularly you soldiers who don't have much choice about doing dangerous work!
 
Mis, I don't know what to add except to say, S**T HAPPENS!

You normally are used to working with people who understand the hazards as you do, so it's understandable you didn't think to mention it to your friend. And when it hit the fan, it sounds like you did everything humanly possible (and then some) to mitigate the the situation. I hope you and your friend heal quickly and completely.

Doc
 
Well I feel a bit insensitive about my earlier response.

Misanthropist, listen to the WCB folks about their advice. I hate to use the word post-dramatic stress, but going through an event like that can be real shock to the system. It puts our own mortality into perspective and you keep re-running the scenario in your head. Nobody wants to put blame on you for this. In fact, unless there is an actual safety code that was violated in your operations, then you did nothing wrong. Should have...could have...is the minds reaction to uncontrolled events.

Find somebody you know and trust and talk it out with them. I hope this thread has given you some support, buy you probably really need to find a human being to really hash out your emotions face to face. It will help, and we don't have to be tough guys 100% of the time. Take care.

Ken
 
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