It's beginning to feel a lot like christmas...

kronckew

kronckew

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Hi, y'all

not quite a kukhri, but a substantial bendy knife. an aquaintance of mine is trying his hand at forgeing & heat treating sharp pointy things. he made this nice little seax type knife, hand-forged & heat treated carbon steel, wood grip, stag bolster & endcap. (i made the sheath)

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i challenged him to make one a bit bigger, based on a sketch i sent him last week, for a bendy knife with stag slabs & a sharpened false edge & told him to adjust it as needed to fit his style.

here's my custom xmas present: nice slab of 1/4in. hi carb steel, hammer forged & heat treated by him, sharp 9in. blade with 5.5 in. sharp false edge on top. wheight 1.5 lb. the 6.5 in. grips may need to be slimmed down a bit, full tang, grips epoxied & also three hollow brass rivets holding them on, the tang is exposed at the pommel & drilled for a lanyard hole.

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gotta make a nice wood scabbard for this. a few hundred more & i'll get him to send his CV (curriculum vitae or resume) to yangdu.

p.s. - here's the sketch i sent him, turned out a bit more of a chopper than originally conceived.
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Sweet. Thats a scary looking blade for sure. I LIKEIT!!!!! Can't wait to see how you sheath it. I'd go with Kydex.
 
For all the beauty of the detail and finish, there's something wonderfully barbaric about that knife.

You guys pillage at all?
 
Neat-o!

kronckew - do you mind if I "borrow" your design? (you'll get full credit) I really like it...a lot.
 
Great idea. Particularly like the fact that you asked for the forge scale to be left on.
 
Daniel Koster said:
Neat-o!

kronckew - do you mind if I "borrow" your design? (you'll get full credit) I really like it...a lot.
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no problem, if it takes off feel free to send me a sample!

i must admit it was pretty much pinched from Dervish tho i had not intended mine to be a 15in. blade fashion damascus short sword like the ones he is selling. i was thinking more of a slim 9in blade nimble fighting knife version.

of course, what i got was more of the western version of the sher special & something special in it's own right. artistic inspiration by dervish, but execution at a different forge = a unique treasure.
 
Great idea. Particularly like the fact that you asked for the forge scale to be left on.>>>>>>>> Aardvark


I'm curious. Is leaving the scale on;
a) a useful finish- repels moisture or damage to blade
b) attracts moisture and damage to blade
c) no effect


munk
 
Kismet said:
For all the beauty of the detail and finish, there's something wonderfully barbaric about that knife.

You guys pillage at all?
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only AFTER the rape section of the traditional sport of R&P is complete. gotta follow the rules.

munk said:
Great idea. Particularly like the fact that you asked for the forge scale to be left on.>>>>>>>> Aardvark


I'm curious. Is leaving the scale on;
a) a useful finish- repels moisture or damage to blade
b) attracts moisture and damage to blade
c) no effect


munk
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loose scale is of course removed, leaving the black oxides & rough surface. my previous experience with this form of ferric oxide leaves me to believe it is quite stable & protective. liberal application of ballistol will also help seal & season the surface, like a black cast iron skillet.

a number of the scandanavian, saxon seax, and se asian blades i have are like this, to me it's an honest expression of a workmanlike tool, not processed beyond what is needed to function. for me this adds to the beuty, not detracts - i hate over-decorated flowerey decoration & processing.

i've also seen a few japanese damascus hunting knives done up like this, forge marked black flats & a polished grind area showing off the layering & hamon. they come in a simple rectangular wood scabbard which i may emulate for this one.
 
kronckew said:
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i've also seen a few japanese damascus hunting knives done up like this, forge marked black flats & a polished grind area showing off the layering & hamon. they come in a simple rectangular wood scabbard which i may emulate for this one.
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Something like this one???

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I love the scabbard on mine...
 
yup, thats one of the ones i had in mind. beutiful. they also make a damascus one with a bronze guard i drool over frequently £114 ($200) from my local pusher in wales.

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Sentou Knives - Hebi
 
Kronck, those knives are way past sweet, your friend has definite talent. For all the big knife's macho flair, I really kind of like the little one. Looks like a really handy knife.

Sarge
 
kronckew said:
yup, thats one of the ones i had in mind. beutiful. they also make a damascus one with a bronze guard i drool over frequently £114 ($200) from my local pusher in wales.

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Sentou Knives - Hebi
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Since you're interested in that knife, I'll chime in to let you know that "Hebi" means 'Snake' in japanese.
 
Sylvrfalcn said:
Kronck, those knives are way past sweet, your friend has definite talent. For all the big knife's macho flair, I really kind of like the little one. Looks like a really handy knife.

Sarge
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i kinda like it myself, it's got a cute chubby little grip that is only comfortable with three fingers & pinky riding behind the pommel, or two fingers & one along the top of the blade for detail work, but has the feeling of rightness about it. sharp little devil too. 'baby' is sitting here at the pc with me. chris anson, the smith (almost called him the forger, but that has different connotations) made baby & a more conventional hilted (but still in stag bolster/pommel & wood) puuko style knife & put them on ebay for £15.00 ea. starting, i bid on the li'l one & left the other for someone else. turned out no one else bid. should have got the other one as well. i think he'd make a wicked langseax...mebbe after xmas.........
 
I really like the antler "button" bolster & endcap on that little one.

My forge has been cold since late spring. I have resolved to quit making excuses and start making sparks again before the new year.
 
I'm not sure what to think about this. You can't just take someone's design like that. I work very hard on my designs and don't appreciate people just copying them. "Pretty much" pinched from me? That is my exact design. Heck, you just traced over one of my photos.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366484&highlight=yataghan
http://www.dervishknives.com/yataghan.htm

Anyone have a comment on this? Seems like a pretty crappy thing to do. If you would have asked me I would have said yes. But this really sucks...

"artistic inspiration by dervish"? there is no inspiration here... it's an exact copy!
 
I confess that was my first thought on seeing the sketch- isn't that a Dervish?

Ethically, I dunno. Legally, the piece as actually produced doesn't really look (to me) that much like the Yataghan. I wouldn't have made any connection if the sketch had not been posted. Part of what makes the Yataghan what it is, are the unique proportions, which are not carried over in kronckew's knife, nor are the angles the same.

Mr. Gonzalez, I can certainly understand not wanting your intellectual property taken, but as produced, this knife looks like it was vaguely inspired by your piece. The sincerest form of flattery, as it were...

John, will own a Dervish one day...
 
Dang....I knew there was a good reason I liked it so much. :thumbup:


John, hopefully you know this already....but if not: I'm a big fan of a lot of your stuff. Really like the lines. I know what it means to put in the curves...from the wasted steel down to the flak you can get from other makers.

Just for the record, the version I hope to create will look very little like yours. It will be a yataghan with a dropped (integral) guard. But will have my handle style, a wider flat grind, and probably a choil in front of the guard.



As for the "copying" of the design by kronckew - the pic does raise an eyebrow, indeed. However, the final product really doesn't bear resemblance to your design. Hopefully, it is just "inspired by your work", as your knife was inspired by the authentic yataghan.
 
I have to confess, I kind of dropped the ball here. Basically I glossed over the first few posts and said "WTF!" and kind of missed that the first pictures were of the finished knife. You guys are right... the end result looks nothing like my design. The "original" drawing was just a tracing over my picture, but the end result is totally different.
Sorry for the freak out, Kronckew!! Carry on! :)
 
Oh and thanks for the kind words, Dan. You've got some BEAUTIFUL knives in your gallery!
 
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