It's impossible to evacuate any US city

Genesis 41

33 Now therefore let Pharaoh look out a man discreet and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34 Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint overseers over the land, and take up the fifth part of the land of Egypt in the seven years of plenty. 35 And let them gather all the food of these good years that come, and lay up corn under the hand of Pharaoh for food in the cities, and let them keep it. 36 And the food shall be for a store to the land against the seven years of famine, which shall be in the land of Egypt; that the land perish not through the famine.'
 
I read or heard that part of the problem with getting out of Houston was that everyone took all of their cars with them, thereby tripling the numberr of cars on the road, at least. It seems that the state and municipal governments expected everyone to carpool! Hell, folks won'tcarpool in the best of times, what makes them think that these same folks will carpool when their precious cars are at risk? I wouldn't.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Genesis 41

33 Now therefore let Pharaoh look out a man discreet and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34 Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint overseers over the land, and take up the fifth part of the land of Egypt in the seven years of plenty. 35 And let them gather all the food of these good years that come, and lay up corn under the hand of Pharaoh for food in the cities, and let them keep it. 36 And the food shall be for a store to the land against the seven years of famine, which shall be in the land of Egypt; that the land perish not through the famine.'
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Blink,Blink, Esav went Old Testament on us!!!!! :D

Seriously though, most major cities are located near rivers and lakes etc.
Taking a boat would be the fastest and least crowded way to leave.
I wonder how many folks drove south towards the oncoming storm and then
used the less crowded roads to go in a different direction?
 
Fixer, I was just pointing out that Machiavelli only said what Joseph said ... a few years earlier. :D

The problem with rivers and boats is that like any public transportation, you can't count on it being there for you. Who wants to wait for the next ferry, and find out there's no more ferries? Cities like New York have a problem being mostly on islands. (Only The Bronx is on the mainland.) There is limited, bottle-necked access through the relatively few tunnels and bridges.

If I had to leave Manhattan, I'd take Riverside Drive up and out, either to the G.W.Bridge or Westchester. Still no guarantee a minority of a hundred thousand other smart guys won't figure out the same route.

Ya gotta leave early!
 
"You gotta leave early..."

I was more thinking of personal watercraft Esav, besides fishing is a great
pastime. And this way one can justify it. "Why honey, that's not just a boat
for fishing, we can load the kids on it and make are way out of the city you
know, incase Something happens....." Just try and say that with a straight
face or the whole thing is a non starter...... :D
 
fixer27 said:
Taking a boat would be the fastest and least crowded way to leave.
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You might be able to get out of the city, but then you and your family and possessions will be in a boat when the hurricane hits.

If you have a really seaworthy boat and you can get far enough out to sea not to be blown helplessly onto a lee shore it's possible to ride out a hurricane. You're safer at sea than in harbor, if your boat is seaworthy and you have enough searoom. With most pleasure boats that isn't an option at all; it would be suicide.
 
Heading upriver would be the way to go, as far as your possesions well that
is a personal call. Heading out to sea in the face of a hurricane on a small
boat would be almost suicidal. But if the "dirty bomb" goes off in downtown
Manhatten than the traffic would be instantly gridlocked. a boat would be a
better option.
 
In the Hudson River ??? OK, it's cleaner than it used to be ... :barf:

The funny thing is, my old post office used to deliver from Central Park out into the Hudson River. We hit the police, fire, and parks departments in the park, and the marina out past West 79th Street in the Hudson. There were ships coming and going, but also people year-round on houseboats. They had regular mailboxes by the dockmaster's office.

Don't eat the fish.
 
I've read about survivalists that equip sailboats with survival gear.
Recent events pretty well show us that these people aren't too for off in their predictions. In a natural or man made disaster of sufficient size
we can't depend on the government to save us.
I however,thought that the size of that disaster, where we would have
had to fend for ourselves ,would have to be a lot greater than a hurricane.
Scary
 
Esav Benyamin said:
In the Hudson River ??? OK, it's cleaner than it used to be ... :barf:

The funny thing is, my old post office used to deliver from Central Park out into the Hudson River. We hit the police, fire, and parks departments in the park, and the marina out past West 79th Street in the Hudson. There were ships coming and going, but also people year-round on houseboats. They had regular mailboxes by the dockmaster's office.

Don't eat the fish.
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Don't eat the fish? After years of feeding on the mobsters dumped in the
Hudson River, I would be more afraid of the fish eating me! And "clean" is a
relative term isn't it?
 
When I lived in NYC, we had more than 500 people on our block. It makes it rough during disasters, but we supported a lot of great restaurants. :)
 
uncle Alan said:
In my opinion the greatest thing from Germany in almost 100 years was Hitler's autobahn system . Ike took it upon himself to do the same & now we have many interstates. My only quarrel is not enough of them.If ours were doubled evacuation could be feasible . Blocking & using the incoming routes except for 1 inbound lane would help .

Some of those in positions of authority confuse their priorities .

Uncle Alan
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Of course the autobahn was designed for moving armor and troops;) . And built with a footing to make it last and not provided continuing income for pavers.


Paul
 
Don't move here. :grumpy:

When we first moved to Honesdale, Pennsylvania (when I was three years old), there were still brick roads and sidewalks.

I hate the fact that the whole USA is being condensed into fewer states. I don't understand people who choose to live in "hurricane territories" but I also don't want them to move here; I miss the small-town feeling I grew up with. Unfortunately, however, it seems there is no other way, and I would never tell someone to stay away if that would put them in danger.

Either the Earth has to get larger or the human population has to get smaller. I doubt either is possible, and I wish I had an answer.

Is it wrong to grieve most for all the animals (non-human) who have suffered and died as a result of these hurricanes? :confused: :(

~ashes
 
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