I've been robbed by "Jameson"

PsychRN

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Some of you may remember that I was trying to trade or sell my Titanium Luminox some time ago.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201706

I made a deal with "Jameson" AKA Joseph C. Carnes of Ridge, New York. He received it on May 9th 2002. We struck a deal on May 19th 2002 for $215 for the watch. Since then, he has claimed to mail it to the wrong address on June 7th 2002.

He makes excuses about my handwriting being illegible or reading as "Moanawa" when it is actually "Moanalua". But, I guess my handwriting was legible enough to get it to him successfully way back on May 9, 2002.

I have contacted him via his cell phone and all I got was a voicemail box, but I left him a message on his voicemail advising him to make a shipping label from the email correspondence with the correctly spelled mailing address on June 8th. I went on a trip and fully expected the money order to be there...no money order.

Today, I contacted him on his cell phone again. I actually got a hold of him and he told me he sent cash via FEDEX or UPS four days ago, and he was going to send another money order today and if the UPS/FEDEX (keeps on changing the carrier) guy didn't show then my money order would be on its way anyway...and if my cash showed up then I would call him and send him back his money order.

This guy tells me he's one of the founding members of Bladeforums. At this point I don't think I'm overreacting, and I've done dozens of deals with NO ONE messing up on the shipping address...not even Botach Tactical. But its been over a month since the deal was struck and I guess I'll have to wait and see.

If the UPS/FEDEX man doesn't show up, I'm calling the Federal Postal Inspector. Jameson's address seemed valid enough. The USPS delivery confirmation number showed successful delivery. Jameson's cell phone works too and I'll be damned if I'm not going to get my money.

Even if Jameson comes through, this is bad enough to get into the G, B and U.
 
Jameson has done quite a bit of Business on BFC and I remember reading that he was one of the "good guys". But when two come to an agreement, and one party ships the item to be purchased, there simply needs to be a much better excuse for this kind of delay in payment.

If JC was broke, he should have shipped the watch back ASAP. If he had a death or tragedy in the family, or his sewer lines backed up, filling his house with crap, he should have informed you ASAP. But when someone says they sent a money order, and days pass without it's arrival and the E-mails start to build concerning the location of the money order and then an answer of : "I could not read your handwriting, so I shipped it to the wrong place"; should have been followed up with another Money order and a photocopy of the carbon copy of the ORIGINAL Money order.

Still too soon to call JC names as his record here is pretty strong. I sure hope he gets into high gear and straightens this out and offers up a better explanation then "the check is in the mail" This is now almost the end of June. This deal should have been over last month!!!!
 
My original comment stands firm! This is a pile of shnit.I'm sorry you got SCREWED!!! Crap like this makes me:barf:
 
...because I normally have nothing positive to contribute, and there are always two sides to each story.

The bottom line here is that BFC GB&U negative feedback usually gets the offenders attention, and it's just not that hard to get the money owed to someone.

Communication is key...and an overwhelming desire to make it right, 'right now!'

The few times I've had 'issues', it was 98% the delivery service's fault...whether it be USPS, FedEx, or UPS. But, I ALWAY's ask the other party what 'they' want to do to make the deal right? if it goes south, regardless of who slipped up.

It's a two way street folks, and people that are pulling scams NEVER come here to say that they got burned...it's the the scammers that quietly slip into the shadows, and then come back when the heat is off.
 
I have traded with "PsychRN" and the handwriting is legible. Perhaps someone has some reading issues or some with the truth.

Really, it's nothing more than theft and damned near grand theft at that, but that will not matter to the Postal Inspectors. They consider it all very serious, it's called Mail Fraud. Wake up and extract your head from your rectum and send the man his money.
 
Update:

I have waited three days. This individual has said that he has sent my payment on three separate occasions and it has not come through at any time. He claims to have sent USPS, UPS and FEDEX. No tracking numbers for some reason. I have given up on receiving my money. At this point I will make a public service announcement and post his name, address, and cell phone number so no one ever makes the mistake of trusting this individual. If the moderators decide to edit or delete this posting then it is in their power to do so.

Bladeforums Alias: "Jameson"

Joseph C. Carnes
5 Niewood Dr
Ridge, NY 11961-3102

Mobile Phone Number: (631) 334-1614
 
I wonder if 500 or so messages on his cell phone would get you your money back....
 
I hate to see this type of thing. Remember when you never got ripped off on Bladeforums? I am starting to feel old again....
 
I have only been screwed once on Bladeforums [NO, I am not gonna tell the freakin Spyderco story again!!!!] but I still ship Custom knives to BF members and trust true members explicitly. I just shipped a $450.00 custom knife to a BF member on the West Coast. I am allowing him to inspect it and if he like it ship me two knives in trade. If not, he will return my knife. If he were to "stiff" me I would not be angry, but be hurt. I think it's very important to really crucify ANYONE who engages in any deal [whether it be for $10.00 or $10,000.00] and is given MORE THAN ample time to communicate and resolve an issue and does NOT.

A true scammer should NEVER be given a second chance................Ira
 
This kind of stuff scares me.
I have been buying for a couple of years and am to the point where I need to "cull the stock", my safe is only so big, and there are knives (good ones) I would like to sell so as to be able to buy more. I see these kind of posts though, and wonder, should I just throw/give them away, or go through the agony of having someone stiff me. I would much rather just give a knife to someone who would appreciate it than go through having to post in the "good bad ugly" to try and recoop a loss.
Supposedly, I could check BF for whether the specific buyer is a "good guy or bad guy". But in this case, who can tell?
Does this suck, or what?
Rad
 
Rad, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Though there is always a chance of something bad happening, the odds are that you will not have any problems selling your knives on BladeForums. Of the thousands of transactions that have been done by the members here only a small percentage have turned out bad.

Edited to correct a poorly spelled word.
 
Originally posted by Ray Smith
Look up MAIL FRAUD COMPLAINT FORM on the
internet. Fill it out and send it in.
Ray Smith
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I sent my mail fraud complaint via on-line form. Wherever you are Mr. Carnes, I hope you pay for your crime by doing time.
 
Hi all,

For those of you that are postal inspectors or postal employees please comment.

I have been scammed by this guy, filed for mail fraud in July of 2002 and have only now received a complaint reference number because I called about 12 different numbers, and finally got a person that could help me.

The NY mail fraud technician told me that they will send a resolution letter to Mr. Carnes and nothing happens, that will be the end of it. I mean, I sent him a Luminox Titanium watch USPS delivery confirmation with insurance, and after this "resolution" letter then NOTHING!

I was given the impression by members of this forum that mail fraud would be dealt with by USPS postal inspection.
 
I think you are dealing with a slacker. You have been more than patient with the USPS worker who is supposed to be handling this and I would now file an immediate complaint with his supervisor.

In a perfect world, with a perfect syetem, these things should be simple. But if just one person drops the ball, the entire system fails, if only for one person; YOU.

Mail fraud is relatively simple to perpetrate and relatively simple to report. The hard part tends to be action and resolution. One does not happen without the other.

Most supervisors get real upset with this type of case management, and tend to go ballistic when they are made aware that one of their investigators/technicians has been sloppy.

Drop a dime and demand to speak with a boss and light him up!!!!!!!
 
Speak to your local postmaster, too. When I tell my local postmistress a story like this she goes looking for a 2x4.

I don't know why I don't remember this thread or why Jameson isn't banned. His last post was 2002-07-12 so it's only a token, but I'm banning him anyway.
 
when I send a money order I quick throw it on the scanner and scan a jpeg of it and email it to the person I am buying from. Then they know that a money order is in route...this guy is a loser and should be killed or at a minimum get Ira's 2x4 treatment..
 
PsychRN, I don't get it. I retired as a Postal Service manager in 1992 so I'm a bit out of it by now, but it can't have changed that much. When we called in the Inspectors, they arrested people. One time I called them, and the guy laughed and told me they had just arrested the thieves on a prior complaint from someone else, before my customer even called me about his problem.

I think someone shuffled your complaint into a bottom desk drawer and forgot about it. I would definitely take the story to your local postmaster (I used to love those complaints :)) He should know someone in the Inspector's office who will jump all over whoever screwed up.
 
Originally posted by wolfmann601
I think you are dealing with a slacker. You have been more than patient with the USPS worker who is supposed to be handling this and I would now file an immediate complaint with his supervisor.

In a perfect world, with a perfect syetem, these things should be simple. But if just one person drops the ball, the entire system fails, if only for one person; YOU.

Mail fraud is relatively simple to perpetrate and relatively simple to report. The hard part tends to be action and resolution. One does not happen without the other.

Most supervisors get real upset with this type of case management, and tend to go ballistic when they are made aware that one of their investigators/technicians has been sloppy.

Drop a dime and demand to speak with a boss and light him up!!!!!!!
Click to expand...

Thanks to all that replied, especially Esav and Wolfmann. I will talk to the postmaster tomorrow.
 
Also the USPS has an 800 number and the complaint goes into the system. In my experience those complaints actually do get acted upon.
 
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