I've got a mad jones for a tomahawk......

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I've been lusting after a tomahawk for awhile. I can't afford ATC's offerings or the nicer customs, but I don't like the ones from Cold Steel even if they are very affordable. Saw some at the last gunshow and the heads were falling down the shafts, when you picked them up.:eek: :barf: :eek: I was checking out Ragweed Forge and noticed some tomahawks at affordable prices. Anybody have one? Quality? Thanks in advance.
 
Most tomahawk heads have a tapered eye that is larger on the top than on the bottom. The handle must have the same taper and shape for them to fit together well; they don't use a separate wedge like a hatchet or axe. I guess the closest tool that is put together like this is a pick. Anyhows, once they have been fitted up right it is impossible for the head to fly off the end of the handle~ although it is rather easy to dislodge and push the handle back through the eye. Is it possible that the CS hawk handles just needed a little reshaping done to them, or they might have just needed to be "rapped" into place? Just a thought before writing them off.:)
 
It's not just that for the CS tomahawks. They also had a big sticker on them that said American Tomahawk Company est 199?, that left a bad taste in my mouth. I know that ATC and CS are having a legal tizzy over the name, that I'm pretty sure ATC has rights too. But I'm not a lawyer and I really don't know specifics, so basically it's a personal choice to choose something other than CS.
 
CAVED,

check out H&B Forge. H&B Forge makes some great hawks for the money. H&B Forge will make hawk styles that aren't on their website just give them a call or send an email. I had H&B make me a Squaw hawk with a spike and it looks very similar to ATC's Rogers Rangers hawk. I think I payed $40 for it! I highly recommend H&B Forge. I also own a Cold Steel Norse hawk and it doesn't even compare to the quality of H&B.

Check out H&B Forge here: http://www.hbforge.com/tomahawks.html.
 
I understand the monkey on your back. I was able to trade an 18th century model for a beautifully made spike hawk, light, and pure fighter, properly made and decorated, selected just for me. It was worth it. It continues to be worth it. And I still miss the 18th Century.
 
CD,
I have 3 hawks from Ragweed Forge that I have no complaints about. Before the accusation of 'damning with faint praise' is leveled, let me say that I haven't used them a lot. They are nicely forged and balanced, and arrived very sharp. I've corrected that last quality. IIRC, Ragnar sells replacement handles, too.

As Cliff said, everything I've gotten from Ragnar has been good quality, and the service is great.
 
I have two hawks from Ragweed and have thrown heck out of them. I like throwing the hawks better than knives and, I seem to have better hitting the target with more accuracy. The two Slasinski fighting hawks suit me very well. Right now either of them will shave the hair off your arm easy.

I have the older Plainsman from CS and the newer Trail Kawk. These throw pretty well too. The Plainsman being heavier hit pretty hard. Too bad they don't make that model any more.

Ragnar has a couple or so others that I would like to try. He is a good man to do business with also.:)
 
Cavedweller,
I have a coldsteel Norse Hawk that I've had for a few years. The handles seem to be a little off but they take a nice edge and throw pretty good too.
God Bless.
Terry
 
Originally posted by dewingrm
I had H&B make me a Squaw hawk with a spike and it looks very similar to ATC's Rogers Rangers hawk.

Unlike some of the other hurtful words with more than one meaning or application the "S" word among any ndn is more than hurtful.
The proper word for an ndn female is woman, lady, or such.
The "S" word is like calling any female a dirty rotten C*nt, a Filthy C*m drinking bitch, a F**king Dirty Slut and so on. Oklahoma is one state that is changing all the reference place names with the "S" word in them to something more descriptive and not hurtful.
I wrote one of these places about the use of the "S" word in relation to a Lady's 'Hawk, but I don't recall which one and all the e-mail I had saved on my old computer wasn't retrievable so I couldn't follow up on it.
The ndns have been trying to get Arizona to change their place names with the "S" word in them such as "S" Peak Mountain, "S" Peak Expressway and etc.
Originally "S" Peak was called "S" Tit Peak and with the coming of the Eastern and other Gentile Ladies the "Tit" was dropped so as to not embarrass or otherwise insult their senses.

But like the ndn mascot issue the Yonegi say, "Well. we are just trying to honor your people."
Bullsh!t!!!!:(
 
Yvsa,

I'm very sorry that I posted that reference. I really had no idea that the "S" word was so offensive. Here in Wisconsin we still have a number of lakes, streams and such that have the "S" name. Most of these "S" names are on reservations, I grew up near the Lac Courte Oreilles Reservation near Hayward, Wisconsin and it has a number of places with the "S" name. I thought it referred to a female Native American nothing more. Again sorry for the post referring to the "S" hawk.
 
Yvsa, is the "s" word originally a Native American term or is it a european based word? Do you know if it has the same inferance to most of the tribes/nations? Thanks for the heads up since I tend to step in "it" with both feet if someone isn't watching out for me.

I can't answer about the Savage arms company logo, but it is named after its founder Arthur Savage (who BTW was a firearm designer of the highest caliber!).

:D
 
squaw (skwô)
n.

Offensive. A Native American woman, especially a wife.
Offensive Slang. A woman or wife.
[Massachusett squa, younger woman.]
 
Please, I didn't take offense of the word being used by anyone here as most people don't realize what the word has come to mean. What aggravates me is the places of business that persist in using such a derogatory term.:(
Like I said, "I wrote to one place that makes 'Hawks protesting the use of the "S" word." They wrote me back wanting some kind of proof, which I don't blame them for. I sent them the evidence of Oklahoma changing the offensive place names as well as some other sources that should have been enough for anyone to change the name to a "Ladies 'Hawk."

The "S" word, IIRC, is an Algonquin word that originally meant an Indian woman.
But there is some controversy about whether that was the original meaning or not. Some people say the word is used to describe an ndn woman's genitalia.
When so many women of many, many tribes were reduced to prostitution in order to have survival not only for themselves, but their families as well, the term came to mean what it means today.
It is oh so derogatory today that it is not even used by ndn men when discussing the ladies as we men are wont to do.
I -have- heard it used once in a -great while- to describe an ndn slut, hey there are sluts of every race, but it is reserved for the worst of the worst and is accurate in that sense.
The A.I.M. or American Indian Movement is one of the instrumentals in trying to get all references of the word removed from all the place names.
Like the Indin Mascot issue we just aren't heard, but if we were any other racial organization the powers that be wouldn't let their shirtail's hit their ass'es before the names were changed.:rolleyes: :(
We still get the same old spiel that, "Oh, don't you like it? We are just trying to -honor- your people."
If they were trying to honor our people then they would listen to us don't you think?:grumpy:
 
I've never heard anything about the Savage Arms company, but at a membership of over 108,000 Cherokee they sure wouldn't stay in business long if they gave away free arms to everyone of us.:D
 
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