It is difficult when you are first introduced to the ESEE line of products, I currently have two Izula's. That combined with reading this forum lately has me talking a good bit about survival training and gear. Already the wife is about ready to swat me with a pan, due to my constant babbling about wanting a Junglas, ESEE-4, Fire Kit, E&E Kit, Arrow Head, Etc. Every time I see a new product I get closer to that frying pan. I will have to start squirlling away ESEE products deep in the bottom of my pack... ESEE is all about survival and yet it may be the death of me.