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Izula Neck Knife Legality in California?
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TO SUM IT UP, THE ANSWER IS YES IT IS LEGAL...UNLESS IT IS CONCEALED OR IF YOU ARE IN A STRICT COUNTY. for example, LA county bans you from carrying anything over three inches, the only exeption to that, is if you have an imeadiate use like capming or work -you cannot EDC anything over 3 inches...It may even be worse IDK.
HERE IS THE LAW FOR CALIFORNIA -not including county laws: I CUT A LOT OUT, SORRY, THIS ONLY REFERS TO CONCEALED KNIVES I BELIEVE... It has been saved in a file and I forgot that I took parts out - the concealed part is missing. My bad -you can find it under the knife laws section in bladeforums
CALIFORNIA CODES
PENAL CODE
SECTION 12020
12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:
(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife
or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of
ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury
or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.
653k. Every person who possesses in the passenger's or driver's
area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the
public, carries upon his or her person, and every person who sells,
offers for sale, exposes for sale, loans, transfers, or gives to any
other person a switchblade knife having a blade two or more inches in
length is guilty of a misdemeanor.
For the purposes of this section, "switchblade knife" means a
knife having the appearance of a pocketknife and includes a
spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife, gravity knife or any other
similar type knife, the blade or blades of which are two or more
inches in length and which can be released automatically by a flick
of a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other
mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the blade or by
any type of mechanism whatsoever. "Switchblade knife" does not
include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure
applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to
the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism
that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade,
or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.
For purposes of this section, "passenger's or driver's area" means
that part of a motor vehicle which is designed to carry the driver
and passengers, including any interior compartment or space therein.
HERE IS THE LAW FOR CALIFORNIA -not including county laws: I CUT A LOT OUT, SORRY, THIS ONLY REFERS TO CONCEALED KNIVES I BELIEVE... It has been saved in a file and I forgot that I took parts out - the concealed part is missing. My bad -you can find it under the knife laws section in bladeforums
CALIFORNIA CODES
PENAL CODE
SECTION 12020
12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:
(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife
or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of
ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury
or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.
653k. Every person who possesses in the passenger's or driver's
area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the
public, carries upon his or her person, and every person who sells,
offers for sale, exposes for sale, loans, transfers, or gives to any
other person a switchblade knife having a blade two or more inches in
length is guilty of a misdemeanor.
For the purposes of this section, "switchblade knife" means a
knife having the appearance of a pocketknife and includes a
spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife, gravity knife or any other
similar type knife, the blade or blades of which are two or more
inches in length and which can be released automatically by a flick
of a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other
mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the blade or by
any type of mechanism whatsoever. "Switchblade knife" does not
include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure
applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to
the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism
that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade,
or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.
For purposes of this section, "passenger's or driver's area" means
that part of a motor vehicle which is designed to carry the driver
and passengers, including any interior compartment or space therein.
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any fixed blade has to be 100% visible otherwise you'll get arrested if you're caught with it
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Maybe legal to sell. Maybe legal to own. Most state's laws specifically classify daggers as weapons, however, and make then illegal to carry, either open or concealed.
i remember this one time i was working on a construction job at a hospital here, and i walked into the hospital to use the restroom with a big fixed blade on my belt, and i remember this cop totally eyeing my blade and looking me up and down as i walked inside, but he didnt say anything to me or stop me at all. im in san jose ca though.
Maybe legal to sell. Maybe legal to own. Most state's laws specifically classify daggers as weapons, however, and make then illegal to carry, either open or concealed.
Daggers are perfectly legal to carry in CA under state law as long as not concealed. May violate some local ordinances. There may be blade length limitations for certain places (public buildings) and may be illegal in certain areas (courthouses, schools).
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That's rather supprising, given CA's draconian laws in respect to weapons in many other respects.
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anyone know what a dagger is??
a neck knife is not a good idea. belt carry is listed specifically as being legal. it could be argued that it is just an example, and other methods of open carry are legal as well.
problem is, this could be a costly assumption. per the letter of the law, a knife must be openly worn in a belt sheath to be legal.
a neck knife is not a good idea. belt carry is listed specifically as being legal. it could be argued that it is just an example, and other methods of open carry are legal as well.
problem is, this could be a costly assumption. per the letter of the law, a knife must be openly worn in a belt sheath to be legal.
The first statement is correct. Belt carry is an example. Penal Code § 12020(d).
The "letter of the law" is that what is illegal is carrying "concealed upon his or her person any dirk or dagger." Penal Code § 12020(a)(4).
Therefore "a knife must be openly worn in a belt sheath to be legal" is not correct. Such carrying is legal (subject to local ordinance) but is not the only legal form of carrying.
The correct statement is "a dirk or dagger must be carried openly to be legal."
Are there police officers who don't know the law? You bet. So to assume that they do could indeed be costly.
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the exact verbage is: 12020(d): Knives carried in sheaths which are worn openly suspended from the waist of the wearer are not concealed within the meaning of this section.
interpret that as you will. when there exists any vagueness in a law, i always suggest to err on the side of caution.
Sorry, but your understanding is not correct. Daggers are legal to carry as I noted above. Butterfly knives were (incorrectly) held by a court to be switchblades and as a result can not be sold unless they have blades that are shorter than two inches. Switchblades are legal in CA if the blades are shorter than two inches.
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it is almost certainly the "flip of the wrist" verbage that led to the defining of a bali as a switchblade.
which, i suppose, to a layman, makes perfect sense.
I did a Google search for the words "extremist" and "Idaho" and came up with around 385,000 hits. Then I did a Google search for the words "extremist" and "California" and came up with around 1,020,000 hits. But the population of California is about 36,750,000 and the population of Idaho is about 1,500,000. Thus the ratio of references to "extremists" in California is about 2.78 per 100 residents (and many of those who are considered extremists are Republicans). The ratio of references to "extremists" in Idaho is about 25.7 per 100 (and many of those who are considered extremists are Nazis).
So we may have more fruits, but you have more nuts!