Japanese handle beveler.

jdm61

jdm61

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I was watching a video on youtube of a Japanese craftsman carving a custom wa handle. It looked like he had some kind of finger plane with a v depth guide that he was using to carve the octagonal facets. Have any of you ever seen something like that?
 
I just stumbled on it a while back on Youtube
 
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pleasanthill said:
Yes, that is what I would call a chamfer plane.
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Marc, where would you find such a device? I seems to be a bit different than the Japanese chamfer planes that I see on Japan Woodworker and Lee Valley, which are "one sided" rather than centering.
 
You could make one easy enough from a western cabinet makers "hollow plane" one half of the hollows and rounds set used to traditionally make molding. Just replace the concave blade with a straight one. It'll be a round relief but still self centering. Occasional old ones with bad or missing blades can be found for next to nothing
 
i eye ball mine but faster and cheaper would be to make a guide for the grinder that could be ajusted for depth and taper
 
Butch, you have done a few in your time, so it is pretty much automatic by now. Not so in my case. I am trying to figure out how to do it on a router too.
 
the trick woudl be setting a fence or guide and if you were tapering the handle or not (taper makes fences a bit more tricky)
i mill my handle blocks flat and square but fit up is a dream and then all i have to do when grinding the other 4 flates is to cut the angle of the flats in half (if your eyes are a bit off flip the handle around and see if you are grinding a difffernet angle) i grind looking down at the front of the handle then flip and clean up looking down at the but of the handle (i can see i have anoter video i need to add to the list
 
Chamfur bit in a router table should do it fairly easily, wouldn't even require any special setup
 
jdm61 said:
Marc, where would you find such a device? I seems to be a bit different than the Japanese chamfer planes that I see on Japan Woodworker and Lee Valley, which are "one sided" rather than centering.
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https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/tsunesaburo-kaku-mentor-chamfer-plane-30mm-akio-uozumihttps://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/tsunesaburo-kaku-mentor-chamfer-plane-30mm-akio-uozumi

But you could just google "chamfer planer" and click images, find one like what you're looking for by image and go from there. I see plenty of them.
 
When I googled chamfer plane that one did not pop up. It about about 3 times the price of the "regular" ones.:eek:
 
jdm61 said:
I was watching a video on youtube of a Japanese craftsman carving a custom wa handle. It looked like he had some kind of finger plane with a v depth guide that he was using to carve the octagonal facets. Have any of you ever seen something like that?
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Why not do that on disk sander? Take a minute to do that ? Just set the angle of rest/work/plate .This one have 12 corners :D

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jdm61 said:
When I googled chamfer plane that one did not pop up. It about about 3 times the price of the "regular" ones.:eek:
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Check ebay, A little searching and I saw some around $100. They are expensive. I used to have an old Stanley one I payed around $300 for.
 
I sawn beat up used one for $100, a few new ones for $169 and some old English planes that looked very similar, but they were being sold as collectables for like $200-250. The Japanese ones are what you would expect from those guys , with laminated Hitachi Blue Steel blades, etc. If the router trick doesn't work, i may have to pony up for one.
 
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