Jigged sharpeners which one should I get

Kinda keeping an eye on turning it into at least a part time business. Wpuld like to start sharpening at gun shows and such. I don't have a massive volume right now typically 20 to 30 knives a week. More during deer season. I also have a full time job that works me usually 45 to 55 hours a week. But word of mouth has more and more people calling me and bringing me knives. At the same time I also sharpen scissors and pinking shears for a local quilting club and my dad owns a welding shop and had been wanting me to sharpen drill bits. So that is my long drawn out dilemma. I am looking for an investment that will last a long time and is able to do as much as possible. A tormek would be fantastic since I could do everything on one machine. But the cost of all those jigs and wheels is kinda restrictive for now

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Cool. If you start looking at gun shows, etc. turnaround becomes a big factor. History has shown that most (not all... and I'm sure I'll hear about it), sharpeners usually end up with some type of powered sharpener (usually a belt sander). There are exceptions of course.

You might consider calling Bob at Oldawan Tools (he's a dealer on BF too)... he has a lot of experience with various sharpeners, and he's one of the few that I've seen sharpen solo at gun shows, primarily with a Wicked Edge. He might have some good insight in your choice.
 
if time is a factor def pickup a tormek , its like 5-10min each knife. you could pass on the japanese stone and just get a standard extra fine ceramic stone, or whatever (depending on knife steel) for finishing and then strop it with the tormek . the one wheel is only two grits based on the stone you run over it which is double sided. for additional or the larger kits they have the JDM wheel which is just for polishing and i think iirc a low grit stone (i dont remember)

most of those other systems will take alot longer than 5-10mins overall. if you say time is a factor, this is probably your only choice. but... if a knifes already sharp any of the systems can touch them up in no time.

the base T8 is only about $700 and the base T4 is about $400

while the wicked edge is going to be substantially more money in the long run with all the version upgrades and different stones you have to get. there is a discussion about it on massdrop about the cost and upgrades etc https://www.massdrop.com/buy/wicked-edge-precision-sharpener/talk

with the KME i spend a good amount of time, even with diamonds to reprofile and get a really sharp knife. i would assume the edge pro would reduce that time drastically due to no clamping system. but you still have to go through all the stones and it does take some time. again if your just touching up its not nearly that lengthy of time to sharpen.
 
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My sharpening partner and I spent 5 hours today setting up and figuring out the TS Profile K02 system and I have some personal observations and opinions. First let me say that both of us have mastered the Wicked Edge systems. I have a Gen 2 with upgraded Gen 3 clamp and he has a complete Gen 3 with every stone they sell as I. Let me say that value was a concern for both systems and they are both expensive which may put them out of reach for some hobby minded people. That being said and not to sound over confident but with the WE system and having used it for 8 months I can honestly say that with time and expense in my opinion you really can't get a sharper knife once you have all the stones and especially the diamond films. WE has been very attentive to what would make the system better, constantly coming out with new stones and films. Everybody has the personal method and by trial and error we both feel we've reached the pinnacle of not only knife sharpening but also mastered polishing. I'm 61 and really never knew it was even possible. I'm kind of partial to the big bevels with mirror finishes that will shock most people that have never seen what a stupid sharp, quality knife that also has a polished edge looks like, some are actually show off knives and others are working knives that look damn good. We're both big ZT fans but both have nice Hinderers, Chris Reeve's etc. He's a collector with a large number of high quality knives, nothing custom. So, what do you do when you've sharpened\polished every knife you own and for me, done all my friends knives? He had me order a loaded K02 system and these are some first day observations. First, these are only my opinions and observations. My friend now owns the two finest production sharpening systems available. Once more, MY opinion. We both had mastered the WE when the K02 arrived. First impression of the Russian system is the quality of machining and the way the thing looks when all set up. Not doing as much research as I should have when I ordered it for him, we went kind of overboard on the accessories, every clamp, every stone set etc. First a couple of small failures which are really no big deal. His did not come with the attached angle cube location on the stone arm I see on You Tube, we'll get one. Secondly the big aluminum block clamp needs two washers as spacers because the tightening knobs are a little short on threads, no big deal and the torx wrenches that come with the system seem to fit nothing, it's all metric allens and a 1 time 10 mm wrench. Performance, I love the rotating clamp systems and really like working with one stone. I also love the stops, the over machining of it and it's potential to sharpen almost anything.
The stones are almost from 2 different worlds, WE with their diamonds & the solid stones of the K02. There's little doubt that in time both systems will do the same thing, create scary sharp, polished edges. You will never hear me favor one over the other. If you can afford it, both systems are state of the art. There are numerous likes about both the WE & TSProf systems and very few dislikes. They're just different. I would appreciate any feedback from anyone that owns a K02 and look forward to mastering it.
 
All are good and all have their learning curves... I would research each to see what the positives and negatives are for each system so you can choose what will fit you best.
 
im invested into a wicked edge myself, but looking at the KME system i wish i had known about it how...LOL

I'm also highly invested in the WE system and love that system but this week I broke down and ordered a KME. Why? because I wanted something for my smaller slipjpoint knives. That's the only drawback of the WE IMO - it doesn't work so well with smaller blades. I ordered the KME with the Pen Knife Jaws - hope this will be the perfect setup for smaller knives.

I did considered trying the TS Profile K02 as I think it's a piece of CNC art, but I rather support businesses in the US.
 
I'm also highly invested in the WE system and love that system but this week I broke down and ordered a KME. Why? because I wanted something for my smaller slipjpoint knives. That's the only drawback of the WE IMO - it doesn't work so well with smaller blades. I ordered the KME with the Pen Knife Jaws - hope this will be the perfect setup for smaller knives.

I did considered trying the TS Profile K02 as I think it's a piece of CNC art, but I rather support businesses in the US.

For an alternative... Tormek's "Small Knife Holder" works great for sharpening small knives in the W.E....

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For an alternative... Tormek's "Small Knife Holder" works great for sharpening small knives in the W.E....

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yeah I have the Tormek. It does work but it's a real pain to setup - I personally don't like to use it.
 
yeah I have the Tormek. It does work but it's a real pain to setup - I personally don't like to use it.

I thought so too... until I read the instructions (who does that anymore) for the Tormek Holder... turns out it's really simple. :) (Just lay Holder and knife on a flat surface and tighten the clamp... and everything lines up. Works on almost all knives, once you get the hang of it).
 
I'm also highly invested in the WE system and love that system but this week I broke down and ordered a KME. Why? because I wanted something for my smaller slipjpoint knives. That's the only drawback of the WE IMO - it doesn't work so well with smaller blades. I ordered the KME with the Pen Knife Jaws - hope this will be the perfect setup for smaller knives.

I did considered trying the TS Profile K02 as I think it's a piece of CNC art, but I rather support businesses in the US.

Yeah I had the same problem with a blade I had to have shipped back to get replaced cause I screwed up but resharpened it with the correct angle and works like a charm.


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I'm also highly invested in the WE system and love that system but this week I broke down and ordered a KME. Why? because I wanted something for my smaller slipjpoint knives. That's the only drawback of the WE IMO - it doesn't work so well with smaller blades. I ordered the KME with the Pen Knife Jaws - hope this will be the perfect setup for smaller knives.

I did considered trying the TS Profile K02 as I think it's a piece of CNC art, but I rather support businesses in the US.
Hi Acadian,
Good news! I'm here in the US and just started selling and supporting TSProf sharpeners. Come visit us on "Dealers for Sale"
George
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