Joe Kious dagger?

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Morgan Mccorkle

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I was recently given what I think is a Joe Kious sub hilt dagger. It has stag scales and a Jim Layton sheath. My question is, how to be sure that it is authentic? How much is it worth? It has "Joe Kious Alamo, TX" on the blade. But it looks like its printed, not stamped. Is this common with his knives? The tip has a little bit of damage, but not much. It is a beautiful knife, and I most likely will never sell it because it was a gift from a friend that, im sure, didn't know what she had. I'll try to post a pic if there is any interest.
 
Joe made two versions of what was called the "Stormbringer", which is what I think you have. I have attached a photo of the shorter version with a 3 3/4" blade. the other version has longer blade length. Mine is also from Joe's time in Alamo, Texas and is so marked. This dates the knife between 1978 and to around 1990 or so. Joe said mine was made in 1978.

Joe was killed in a single car accident a couple years ago, but prior to that I had occasions to visit with Joe in his shop very frequently, and he in my shop as we only lived about 5 miles apart here in Kerrville, TX. He and I were very close friends.

Your membership level precludes discussion of prices, but the knife you have is relatively rare if it is the shorter version, and really rare if it is the longer.

My contact information is below if you want to discuss further.

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Could also be the Exposure subhilt. There is not a lot of market for Joe Kious counterfeit knives, so it it likely an original. The tip damage can likely be repaired easily, if you have access to a knifemaker.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Regarding originality, Paul wrote you everything. About the tip, I think you have to repair the tip, to see it like that is a real pity! A good knife maker takes very little time and does a job that brings it back to a state comparable to the new.
 
Steven mentioned the term "Exposure", which refers to a movie starring Peter Coyote.
The film was also known as "High Art" (or "A Grande Arte") and Joe Kious was mentioned in dialogue and the Stormbringer knife was shown briefly.

Paul
 
That is a nice gift! I'd bet dollars to pesos that Joe made that knife. I'm confident that I speak for Paul when I say Joe sure is missed. Paul, I hope you're well.
david
 
Thanks to everyone for your assistance. I had no idea the caliber of craftsmanship this man had. A true legend. I am considering having this knife repaired, cleaned, and possibly appraised. I may even build a presentation box for it and give it back to my friend. I just don't feel right keeping it knowing that she had no clue exactly what it was. Again thanks guys.
 
Morgan, I just emailed you Jim Layton's contact information (the sheath maker). He may be able to shed a little more light on your search for information.

Paul
 
sheathmaker said:
Steven mentioned the term "Exposure", which refers to a movie starring Peter Coyote.
The film was also known as "High Art" (or "A Grande Arte") and Joe Kious was mentioned in dialogue and the Stormbringer knife was shown briefly.
Paul
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I saw this film many years ago, you can find it in full version on you tube, but this is a small piece of the film ... that of interest.
 
^^^ GREAT clip! He chose well. :)

I've photographed these Kious subhilts a couple of times. VERY appealing.

Yes, have it fixed.
 
Thank you everyone for all of your help. Especially Mr. Paul Long. This really is a great community. I wasn't expecting this much attention. I really needed it too, because I've never even seen a knife of this quality by a maker of such high regard much less owned one. It has me nervous to say the least. Lol. Thanks everyone.
 
Morgan Mccorkle said:
Thanks to everyone for your assistance. I had no idea the caliber of craftsmanship this man had. A true legend. I am considering having this knife repaired, cleaned, and possibly appraised. I may even build a presentation box for it and give it back to my friend. I just don't feel right keeping it knowing that she had no clue exactly what it was. Again thanks guys.
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What a refreshing attitude! Good people here, I’m reminded over and over. :cool:
 
Just to add a bit to the history of the design. The Stormbringer was an original design by Curtis Truell, an Oklahoma collector.

It should be mentioned that Ray Cover, Sr copied the Stormbringer model sometime after Joe Kious did, more around the mid to late 80s. Ray made a LARGE number of them. I had at least 15 of them myself, obtained from collector and Muskie fisherman Vince Bianchi, (rest his soul) all sold over time.

Bob
 
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