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John Lloyd Knives

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by Campbellclanman, Jul 17, 2011.

  1. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Hey there everyone.
    Well, as we have noticed John Lloyd's name is popping up in the forum here and there.
    I have just had the arrival of two of his knives, I already have posted a couple of photos of two of this same maker in my other thread, and the gunstock knife with the fish shield has had quite a few very favourable comments, and rightly so, as that knife is a lovely, well made knife...here are my two latest from John Lloyd.
    I want to thank Vince for his help here with me getting these great knives :thumbup:

    John Lloyd slimeline Trapper
    Please forgive the first 2 photos-quite blurry, my light was running out very fast, and the snaps were taken in haste, but hopefully you can look past this and see the knife ok.
    Three of my Lloyds are a step above from what may be some of Johns previous work?..I can understand this, and would love to be in a postion of even being able to make his earlier knives ( if this is actually the case-I am not too sure so forgive me )
    This slimline has great walk and talk, nice smooth action, easy pull to open, would be a 3/10, absolutely fantastic Stag. Fit and finish is just superb. If you wanted to fault this knife, there is a slight gap in the spring, and one side of the blade( the face) there is a imperfection or better described as a wave in the face -again only slight-you may have seen this in the 70's Solingen fixed blades a lot-as this was most common with them.
    The fit of the blade to the spring is near perfect when open, great snap in all areas, spring is nice and flush when at half stop ( now Im not too sure if this is a sign of quality here-but on my production knives-most have the spring exposed when at half stop ).
    I notice that John has different Tang stamps as well, it would be interesting to find out just why this is?
    In one of the photos you can see a few scratches-the light makes these stand out terribly and are only very very slight, this is not caused by any blade rub.
    The faults I have stated dont mean anything at all to me, as I look at what I paid for the knife, and balance that out to the knife itself...the knife is in my eyes just a beaut, and this stays with me :D..here it is.
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    John Lloyd drop point Folder
    If I have described this model wrong-please correct me :eek:
    Man...this knife is a honey, again...stunning Stag, once again with John his fit and finish is superb...it really is.
    The blade - as with the slimline Trapper is 52100, please...could I have your opinions of this steel, I have a jack that is one of Johns, made from the same steel, and I found it quite easy to get a very sharp edge.
    Pull on the knife would be a 4/10...perfect for me, extremely strong snap in all areas, the blade is hollow ground-like the older cut-throats ... this knife is simply beautifull, and again for the price I paid...the quality is far superior as to what I was expecting.
    Love those swedges.
    So...this is what makes me think that we should ( I am hoping ) see a lot more of the maker in the future...I have no previous knowledge of this guy and I am only going by my very short experience with his knives so far ...if he has been around for a while? he has slipped under my radar anyway, but Im glad I know of him now...here is my other John Lloyd...( note the different stamping)
    Thank you folks for having a look, I hope it was worth your time in doing so.
    Have a great day.
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  2. LKJW

    LKJW

    Nov 21, 2010
    Sweet Duncan! I especially like the 2nd. Those swedges! GOod lord!
     
  3. John L

    John L

    Oct 28, 2004
    Hello All: I do appreciate the reviews and must comment a bit. I learned to make slipjoints on my own and still have never seen one built. I have made between 4-500 slipjoints and these two were some of my beginnings. I sold them at Blade knowing that they were not perfect....but what do I do..take them to the dump? In fact I sold about 160 knives at Blade...all probably imperfect...but good user knives. I have come a long way since these knives and make good ones now...I think. My fit and finish was not up to par and you see it here. I have a small home in Mexico and have made many knives there and sell or give them to the fishermen, ranchers, and carpenters. I enjoy it immensely. They do not care one iota about fit and finish...they want a knife that performs and is easily sharpened. Now, I do realize the American market is completely different. I am changing my evil ways! Habits though are hard to change. People like Don Hanson, Brent Cramer, Blues, Ken Erickson have helped immensely in my slipjoint building. Don Hanson once asked me how long it took me to build a knife. I replied that I built about two a day if working 8 hrs. He told me to slow down, take more time in fit and finish, and well...just do a better job. I did do that. Now...I build one before 11AM, then go fishin! No...really..I have slowed down and knives are much better. I was lucky to meet a few dealers at Blade and they ordered quite a few. I have made about 30 knives since Blade and they are all better than any before. Am still trying to figure out camera work and to be able to post on the forums here........but...like my knife building...I am a slow learner! As far as different stamps.....I use the J H Lloyd Loreto stamp while at my home in Loreto, Baja Sur, Mexico. It is a small fishing village on the Sea of Cortez. I do have a few other stamps but have gone to a script version of Lloyd when in St. Louis, Missouri...home. Again thanks very much for all of the people here at the blade forums as this is where I learned how to build a knife.
     
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  4. Blues

    Blues Lapsed SuperMod / Cattle Knife Rustler Staff Member Super Mod

    Oct 2, 1998
    Congrats, Duncan, I can tell you from my own small personal experience that John's knives are a great addition to the collection! :thumbup:

    I was using my own Lloyd knife the other day to cut numerous vines on a trail through the woods that I take with my dog on many mornings. That 52100 just sliced through the encumbrances allowing a more pleasant and less tangled path.

    I'll be looking forward to seeing (and owning) more of John's knives in the future.
     
  5. VCM3

    VCM3 Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Oct 26, 2005
    :)Enjoy them Duncan. In a way,you owning those knives,makes me think of it,as if you were there in Atlanta & met John yourself.A heckuva good fella & like Elliott says,it'll be great to see more in the future. Always glad to help.
    Vince :)
     
  6. comoha

    comoha Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 12, 2006
    I like John's can-do attitude (not to mention envying his situation of building knives by the sun and sea), that's why I have one on order from him.
    I can't wait to see it.
     
  7. Durwood

    Durwood

    Dec 10, 2003
    Thanks to Vince, I've also gotten a couple of these Lloyd knives. I am very pleased with them:thumbup::thumbup:
     
  8. wagglebee

    wagglebee

    Jun 6, 2009
    I picked one up from Vince a few weeks back, John makes great knives.
     
  9. 338375

    338375

    Nov 4, 2006
    Very nice Duncan. The drop point is just beggin to go on a hunting trip
     
  10. John T Wylie Jr

    John T Wylie Jr

    Feb 1, 2007
    I have one enroute now from John..can't wait.

    I love that second knife.

    I am pretty darn sure this wont be my last knife from John ! :)
     
  11. John L

    John L

    Oct 28, 2004
    Thanks again to all of you. It makes me want to go back out to the shop and work a bit. Thank you.
     
  12. Dornblaser

    Dornblaser Banned BANNED

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    Sep 5, 2010
    Duncan,

    What are the lengths of those two knives?

    - David
     
  13. Mad_Maxx

    Mad_Maxx

    Nov 29, 2007
    I really like the droppoint
    awesome blade design, classic handle and great stag, congrats
    Maxx
     
  14. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Thank you everyone for the comments, and John..what a pleasure to have you come in and educate us a wee bit of your work-thank you so much for that.
    I hope that you haven't taken anything I said as a slur against your work - this is why I was careful to state earlier work, and I agree with what you say, I'm thinking we all would scream if we were to hear that you dumped your early work just because they were just that-your early work.
    I think your knives Sir are just fantastic, if you are making better knives now-then I would love to see them, because my ones I have here are just brilliant.

    I envy John greatly with his talent.

    Vince, as always was straight up and explained a lot to me when I bought them, and I got a well described knife in each case.
    So...John, thank you for your lovely work, and welcome.

    ps David, I will come back to you with measurements
     
  15. John L

    John L

    Oct 28, 2004
    Cambellclanman: No slur taken. The old man used to cuss me out for a unfinished job when I was a kid. No different now 50 yrs later. It helps immensely to have someone critique ones' work. How do you know if you are ever getting better. That's what I meant about knives in Mexico....they don't care about fit and finish as long as it cuts and you can sharpen it. Lil different up north! Thanks again.

    John L
     
  16. ELDE

    ELDE

    339
    Mar 1, 2003
    I have got one LLoyd folding knife, then 2 , then 3, then ?

    ummm, is there any cure ?

    ELDE
     
  17. rickmenefee

    rickmenefee

    Jun 26, 2005
    I meet John at the blade show this year. I think he will be a major player in the slip-joint game very shortly!!
     
  18. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Hi Rick,
    That coming from you is a tremendous compliment to John, this is why I put up this thread, I just wanted people to see Johns knives, and to help spread the word on his great knives, unbeknown to me...people like your self have already met John and this tells me he is definitely on the way...its great to hear.
    I personally have 3 john Lloyds, I have another on hold for a friend, and I gifted that lovely fish shielded gunstock to my very good friend.....so 5 have come to New Zealand ( so far )
    Have a great day everyone.
     
  19. rickmenefee

    rickmenefee

    Jun 26, 2005
    He is the real deal! I just meet him one time and only spoke to him a couple of times. I saw a pile of knifes on his table maybe 50 or 60 and their is know mistaking what he is capable of doing. Very humble person!!! I saw him giving knifes to young people
    to get them interested in slipjoints.
     
  20. canineforge

    canineforge Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 21, 2005
    I am one of the 'kids' John gave a knife to. :D :thumbup: The only Lloyd I came home with. But, I handled the majority of John's folders and you can call me impressed. Plus, where do you find that many carbon steel slipjoints in one location? I am a carbon steel fan. John is a pleasure to know and listening to critiques of his past work is only going to put him up there with the best. I keep my Lloyd slipjoint next to the computer at all times, 1) because I really like its looks, 2) because I open and close it daily, just because it does so just exactly right for me, and 3) it has become my desk/mail knife. I would carry it some, but would only get to admire it when I used it. :)

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    I appreciate your reviews Duncan. Hearing that John is slowing it down for some better fit and finish is music to my ears, and should be for all of us.

    - Joe
     

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