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Johnsons Paste Wax or Reniassance Wax?

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by jawilder, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. jawilder


    Jun 27, 2006
    Which wax is better for protecting wood and steel? I have seen makers use both. I have some Johnsons wax but was wondering if there is any need to get some Reniassance wax as well. It seems like they both do the same thing.
  2. SBuzek

    SBuzek KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 7, 2006
    I use Mother's carnaba,works well enough for me.
  3. Danbo

    Danbo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 28, 1999
    Never tried anything but the Ren wax, so I don't know if the other wax does the same thing. I will say this about the Ren wax. The stuff is magical; it really works. Also, if you buy some, buy the small container, cuz you only need a teeny bit and the damn container will last forever. Several knife supply dealers have told me they NEVER get repeat customers for Ren wax. ;) :)
  4. Fred.Rowe

    Fred.Rowe Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    May 2, 2004
    This wax comes out on top for moisture penetration prevention. Its a quality product that I've used in the wood shop for many years.

    A one pound can is around 12.00 dollars from Amazon.com

  5. Steve Randall

    Steve Randall

    Dec 3, 2009
    I like the Ren wax its great stuff and that little can last forever. It seem to clean up a little better than other waxes . that said I haven't used the briwax or mothers
  6. Mudbug007


    Nov 29, 2010
    Another vote for Ren Wax! Of course, this was before I knew that a little goes a long ways. I bought the big can. I suppose I'll have it for many, many years to come!!
  7. lonepine


    May 7, 2010
    I bought Ren Wax, but before I had that I used Turtle Wax for cars. Why? Because I had it on hand and I didn't have anything else to use. If the Johnson's wax works for you then save your money.

    I wonder if there was a "wax war" to compare the various waxes?

    - Paul Meske
  8. butchesforge


    Nov 16, 2005
    Nother vote for Renwax and yes the small can lasts a loong time---
  9. MJV


    Apr 27, 2011
    I use the ren wax. Same jar for I don't know how many years now and it has just a small wallow in it where I put the rag in the jar.
  10. Rick Marchand

    Rick Marchand Donkey on the Edge Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 6, 2005
    Funny... Ren. wax just didn't cut it for me in the moisture resistance dept. I love it for shows and short term storage but as far as a working wax, it sucks, IMO. Plus it contaminates food. I use plain old mineral oil or raw lindseed/olive oil for field use. Maybe we aren't talking field use, though.
  11. Bailey Knives

    Bailey Knives KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 18, 2004
    This stuff is due out to the public in early 2012. I emailed them and they said that is when the expect it to become available.

    I plan on buying it as soon as it becomes available.
    Watch the videos...it is amazing.
    The link is just to the corrosion application, but you really need to watch all the videos. Let me know what you think also, I am curious if I am all excited over nothing.

  12. mgysgthath


    Dec 15, 2009
    Ed Caffrey uses Mothers as well, and also dislikes the results he got from Renaissance wax; this is from his Basic Damascus DVDs in the section on final prep for the bars after cleaning. He mentions also, not to use anything with silicone in it, as it can trap moisture against the steel and cause corrosion/pitting/rust etc.
  13. woodwrkr221


    Jan 28, 2011
    I'll agree with Rick. From a woodworking perspective at least, wax isn't going to hold up to being handled, used, rubbed, etc. If the knife is a user of any sort something more durable than wax is in order.

    On the other hand, wax does in fact make things look good. A high carnuba content wax needs to be buffed with a power tool of some sort, hand buffing won't bring out the shine in carnuba.
  14. daizee

    daizee KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 30, 2009
    I've been using Flitz Gun & Knife Wax.
    Once I tried straight beeswax and that didn't work out too well. If you can power-buff it into wood it's great, but it's not so fantastic on other materials because it stays tacky and doesn't thin out enough.

  15. Ed Fowler

    Ed Fowler

    Jul 21, 2001
    Years ago Wayne Goddard did a comparison study of many waxes to protect knife blades. He ended up deciding one car wax worked best. Sorry but I don't remember which issue of Blade it was in.
  16. Horsewright

    Horsewright KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 4, 2011
    I have tried Ren and several other waxes as well. I used Ren enough I went through 3 small cans. Can't say I ever really liked it but kept using it cause everyone said it was so great. Settled on Mothers carnuba car wax. Buff it off with a buffer. Better stuff and better results. Oil on the blade and wax on the handle.
  17. russamurai


    Feb 24, 2009
    Japanese chefs and samurai sword finishers having been using camelia oil for centuries. I compared it to mineral oil, the difference being that camelia ended up leaving a protective coating when it dried. I use one small dab to coat the whole knife... Just make sure you use food grade if yer interested in it.
  18. Ryanol


    Aug 24, 2011
    Last night as an experiment - I applied a coat of burts bee's wax, then buffed it off...figuring at the very least it ought to be food safe. maybe it will cause corrosion - time will tell.
  19. Ed Fowler

    Ed Fowler

    Jul 21, 2001
    That is a great experiment! Can't wait to hear the results.

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