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Jumbo trapper

Discussion in 'Camillus Collector's Forum' started by bucklife301, May 29, 2019.

  1. bucklife301

    bucklife301 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 3, 2018
    What is the blade steel used on the Camillus & Remington jumbo trapper the etching is a different color than my bucks . BF34C1A6-CCE6-4C95-8F31-90CACACC0DF1.jpeg C3D15F03-52DA-40F9-B0FA-425E75639565.jpeg 821B9774-DE0F-4412-A7BA-95B955C0AA47.jpeg
     
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  2. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
  3. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    681
    Feb 4, 2011
    Pattern #5754 is one of my favorite patterns. It started in 1972 and was produced almost until the very closure of Camillus. The blades were made of 440A steel, although at the end there was 420 HC steel.
    There are many topics on this forum with information about this pattern, and here are a few of them:
    https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/camillus-cartridge-collection.395432/
    https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/buford-pusser-commemorative.291648/
    https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/remington-knives-by-camillus.1151668/
    https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/did-camillus-make-this-remington-trapper.1065389/
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2019
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  4. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Vit, thank you for taking the time to add your knowledge to this. DM
     
  5. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    681
    Feb 4, 2011
    I like this pattern, and I have a lot of these knives, but the photos are located in different topics. Maybe this is the right place to bring them together? :)
     
  6. bucklife301

    bucklife301 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 3, 2018
    Thanks for the info Vit these jumbo trappers are one of my favorite knives also. Post some pictures of some of them sometime
     
  7. Phil Gibbs

    Phil Gibbs Cutlery Student Platinum Member

    Nov 11, 1998
    Subtle difference in etch color does not imply a different blade steel.
     
  8. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Thanks @Phil Gibbs , So, when was the switch made from 440A to 420hc? DM
     
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  9. Phil Gibbs

    Phil Gibbs Cutlery Student Platinum Member

    Nov 11, 1998
    Early 90's was when the 440A became too hard to get.
    Transition would have taken a few years as we had so many different coil types (thickness & width variety).
     
  10. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Thanks, Phil. DM
     
  11. bucklife301

    bucklife301 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 3, 2018
    Thanks Phil
     
  12. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
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    Ok I have a couple of questions regarding blade steel, the above posts states 440a and 440hc as blade steels. So first is the nostalgia art collection Camillus made? And if so what steel? Clearly this one developed patina with use. So 1095? Thanks
     
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  13. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    @Misplaced Hillbilly , I didn't see this until recently. Above we were talking about 440A and 420hc. I have not seen either of these
    steels form patina. The 1060 steels - 1095-- yes. But when did Camillus use that steel? DM
     
  14. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
    @David Martin
    I did some looking online, Remington corporate hq moved to Madison North Carolina in 1996. This knife is etched with Madison North Carolina and "First Production Run" I'm guessing the first run was the "Nostalgic Art" series. So I'm thinking late 90's maybe early as '96. Note the tang stamp is different as well. The circle around the bullet says Madison on top,and I assume Nort Carolina on the bottom,but the bottom is hidden in all positions. The other Remington jumbo trapper I have is dated 1989 on the pile side of the spey blade tang. The Madison Nc one has no date stamp. The R1306 I have is dated 1990. The Madison one has noticeably thinner blades,not a huge amount but its visible. I'll try to get some comparison pics tomorrow or Saturday. Neither of the dated Remingtons have developed any patina at all,the Madison Nc one did after one steak dinner.
     
  15. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    Sir, it could be your models have carbon steel blades. From the late 1989 era. I have recently sharpened a jumbo Trapper made
    by Moore Maker and having handled it I know for sure they use 1095 steel for that model. The knife was maybe 1-2 years old and
    it had patina. DM
     

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