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I'm not sure what it really is but I think I'm having flashbacks! Not to be confused with hot flashes although I get those too.
 
blue lander said:
What kind of programming do you do, Shavru? I did assembly and C programming for awhile, but there isn't much of a market for that kind of low level stuff anymore.
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Heartbleed was a C hickup and it made the news all around the world couple of weeks ago :-)
 
blue lander said:
What kind of programming do you do, Shavru? I did assembly and C programming for awhile, but there isn't much of a market for that kind of low level stuff anymore.
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snowwolf said:
Heartbleed was a C hickup and it made the news all around the world couple of weeks ago :-)
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I started programming in Cobol and OCL, JCL on IBM 4341 mainframes for the Dept of Defense (yes I "programmed" on punch cards if that tells you how long ago that was). Then spent some time programming in machine language and C. Then decided I had enough of that and got into Databases. Now, mostly program Medical database programs running on MS SQL. Usually use ASP.net, C# and Transact SQL and XML variations.

Yeah Heartbleed took advantage of the old memory pointer concept from C. Most kids that "program" don't know how to control memory pointers as Visual Basic and its morph versions of applications automated all that. So someone that knows C and memory pointers could do all sorts of things that VB writers didn't know to keep secure because they don't understand how memory actually works.
 
I programmed on them mainframes as well. Hated them. Turn your punch cards in and wait half a day to get a printout of your program and sometimes the machine would eat your cards or the operator would get them all mixed up and you had to spend hours sorting them back to proper order. What a pain. Now you can do it all on a cell phone. All i knew then was Fortran IV and Basic. Cobol was for business majors then. I was doing more scientific stuff. I am old! I wish I had a box of them cards now! They would make great target practice on the end of a stick :D
 
Bawanna said:
I have no clue what you just said but it sounds wicked smart.
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C is very flexible and it doesn't enforce common sense. It that particular situation, a programming error allowed to peek where you were not supposed to.
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You folks are so far over my Missouri farm boy head you must be on oxygen to breath. I think I'll go count the dandelions in my front yard now. This is gonna take a spell, wait, I mowed last night, killed em all. Now what do I do?
 
Bawanna said:
You folks are so far over my Missouri farm boy head you must be on oxygen to breath. I think I'll go count the dandelions in my front yard now. This is gonna take a spell, wait, I mowed last night, killed em all. Now what do I do?
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Bwanna,
I know you forgot to cut the grass on that small side yard, go huff the Dandys over there!
 
You must be the fella in that black helicopter that's been hovering around awhile. I thought it was Bookie but it's YOU.
 
So you fellers are partnered up to spy on ole bawanna huh? Yall think I'm up to something or something? Other than my obvious blade and gun addictions I'm pretty straight and narrow or perhaps bent and wide would be a better descriptor.
Now that I know who yall are up there I'll try to smile and wave now and then and tell the wife to wear a turtle neck so you don't try to look down her shirt.
 
Actually Bawanna I heard Rhino and Bookie were hired BY your wife to keep track of you while she was gone and submit a report to her about your dandelion addiction.
 
Yep, She is concerned that she might have to schedule an intervention. Your dandilion addiction might be out of control, or was it that your HI addiction might be out of control and the dandiliions were just an excuse? LOL Oh well whatever the point is I am sure the point is there and I am only sort of confused.
 
Shavru said:
Actually Bawanna I heard Rhino and Bookie were hired BY your wife to keep track of you while she was gone and submit a report to her about your dandelion addiction.
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Darn! News travels so fast that our cover is blown about who we really work for. So the men in black. were hired by your wife.
Just to come clean, when it comes to looking at ladies, the govermint mib have mini drones that look up under, not just down from the top!
 
Shavru said:
I started programming in Cobol and OCL, JCL on IBM 4341 mainframes for the Dept of Defense (yes I "programmed" on punch cards if that tells you how long ago that was). Then spent some time programming in machine language and C. Then decided I had enough of that and got into Databases. Now, mostly program Medical database programs running on MS SQL. Usually use ASP.net, C# and Transact SQL and XML variations.

Yeah Heartbleed took advantage of the old memory pointer concept from C. Most kids that "program" don't know how to control memory pointers as Visual Basic and its morph versions of applications automated all that. So someone that knows C and memory pointers could do all sorts of things that VB writers didn't know to keep secure because they don't understand how memory actually works.
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Wow! Cobol and JCL were a little bit before my time, but I once buy manuals for both that I found at a thrift store with an old paper tape reader/puncher. The books must have been from the 60's. No idea what OCL is.

I always loved the clever little things you could do with pointers in C that you couldn't get away with in more modern languages, but I always knew if my program crashed in some catastrophic way it's because I forgot to dereference a pointer or vice versa. Not that tricky when compared to some older assembly languages where you might have a half dozen different addressing modes, but I can see how somebody who cut their teeth on something like VB would have a hard time thinking that way. Personally I'd rather deal with pointer issues than OO stuff like overloaded objects and whatnot, though.
 
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