Just got a Peter Wright

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I have a question about the anvil I just got. It is a Peter Wright that does not say "England" on it. From what I understand, that means it is pre 1915 and has a face made up of 3 or so welded plates. It is in good shape with a lot of pretty shallow nicks on the face. Should I grind those out or will it not affect it too badly? I understand the hundred weight markings and that puts it at 190 lbs. What I can't figure out is what the numbers on the front flat part of the foot are. It has a 2 on the left side and a 2 on the right side of the foot on the horn side of the anvil. Hope that description makes sense. Anyone know?
Needless to say, I am pretty happy since I got a decent deal on it. I had to pay $0 for it so I think I came out pretty well. However, I am going to make the guy who gave it to me as nice of a knife as I am able as a thanks. He even apologized since it wasn't in "great" shape with all the "nicks and stuff".
Thanks for any help.
-Mike
 
I wish I had someone make an apology to me like that. How are the edges, they are very important and is it flat? If the edges are pretty sharp and it has no swayback then polish her up and go to town. Good deal though congrats.

chuck
 
One edge is pretty beat, but only about 3/8" of an inch into the face and about 1/3rd the length of the face. I was wondering if I should try to radius it a little down the road to take care of it? I am not going to do anything drastic until I use it a bunch and find out exactly what I want out of it. The other edge is about 98% clean/square. It does have a little swayback, but very minimal. 1/8 inch of sway or less. Maybe I will try to post some pictures tomorrow.
-Mike
 
Okay, the way I understand it, is the "three piece" faces were used up until 1885 or so. Then, "ENGLAND" was added on the side after 1910.

So if you have a one-piece face (I've never seen a three-piece, but I assume the seams would be at least slightly visible) and it only says "PETER WRIGHT PATENT" and "Solid Wrought" in a circle, on the side, then it's from between 1885 and 1910.

By far the most common Wrights you'll find out there. PW imported tens, if not hundreds of thousands to the US.

Personally, I would not grind on the face until you've had a chance to work it. Small hammer dings, while unsightly, don't affect the workpiece that much, but if you have actual chips or craters, those probably ought to be taken care of.

Now, the problem here is that the "faceplate" is fairly thin. Wrights like yours were made in three pieces; the "foot" and the main body including the horn, made of wrought iron, and a plate of high-carbon "tool" steel, all of which were forge-welded together and then quenched. The faceplate is only about 3/8" thick, and that assumes no previous owner has ground on it, and that assumes the swayback is from hammering, and not abrasive wear.

I elected to repair mine with careful welding. I turned this, which had damage including this crater about the size of a quarter and almost 1/8" deep, and badly rounded corners (that was the good end!) into this.

Now, it's still swaybacked slightly (down to about 1/16", half of what it was) and there's some question as to how well my welds will hold up, and they're definitely becoming noticible as I use it (the welds apparently don't abrade as much as the original face, so they're starting to appear as spots that are still a little shiny) but it's a damn sight better than what I started with.

You can see a better closeup here, in this shot of my fancy hammer.

I also repaired the nose of the horn by simple MIG welding and grinding back to shape, then building up the table over 1/4", again with multiple MIG passes and a quick trip through the mill.

Last, I also had to build up and redress the hardy hole as well. Multiple small nicks and divots in the face, I ground out with a tiny abrasive wheel in a Dremel (to make the repaired spot as small as possible) and then filled in with the TIG.

The best filler wire I found, by the way, believe it or not, was screen door springs. I'm not kidding, it's great stuff, though there's some question as to the exact alloy. I'm told it's probably 1095, so I plan on buying a roll direct, if I can, and test it some more.

Keep the beads small and short, and they self-quench to file-hard. No further heat-treating work hardening necessary. I literally couldn't mark the welds with a center punch, although there's some variable annealing once they're ground down, as a fresh pass slightly anneals the pass below. I'm guessing it winds up around 52 to 58 Rockwell C, mostly higher, as even ground and sanded, a sharp file will only slightly cut a few spots.

If yours is as good as you say, I'd just run a belt sander down it to level anything sticking up (dings and the like) and smooth the chipped spots lightly. Then just use it for a while, and see if any of the damage really gets in your way, or causes other problems.

Doc.
 
I have 2 Peter Wrights, both of them have pretty badly dinged up faces and rounded off corners, I have touched them up a little with an angle grinder but decided that the improvement wasn't really worth the work, and I'm a little concerned that too much will take me through the face plate. At some point I'll save up the money for a nice Peddinghaus, but in the meantime The PWs are really nice for keeping all of the energy I put into the hammer in the work. Enjoy your PW, you don't realise how nice they are until you try another anvil, and wonder why it feels like you are hammering on a wet sponge.

-Page
 
Here are some pictures. Does anyone know what the 2s mean on the foot?
I am also wondering if it is a big problem that the face is sloped to one side pretty badly. It has nice ring and rebound. Does it look good enough for a user?
-Mike
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Looks like someone already ground the top a bit so I'd hesitate to grind it any more
I'd mount it on a stump with the top cut at an angle that levels the face and call it good. One thing to watch with the rebound of a wright anvil, if you miss on a hard shot that hammer is coming right back at you, the first time it whizzes past your ear will wake you up for sure!

Enjoy!

-Page
 
I have a 200 pound peter wright. its in a bit better condition face-wise but I love it!

The silver balls are neodymium 1.5" magnets. They take the ring right out!

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Mike it is unuseable send it to me and i will scrap it for you:D.


Serisouly though, work on it a bit and see how it is, only way to tell. I like the idea of the angled stump to make the face flat.
 
Thanks for all the info/advice. My dad had the idea of the angled stump too. I am glad to hear that some of you with experience think it still has some life in it. Now I just need to finish my forge and get to work.

So no idea what the twos on the foot mean?

-Mike
 
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