Something smells here. Why go to the trouble to pull the pic and edit out his ad if all is on the up and up? If you aren't satisfied, start a GB&U thread, and leave negative feedback.
If the knife came to you in the condition you described in his thread, I certainly wouldn't consider that "slightly used not abused in very good condition as posted". There is no way to actually see how he described the knife unless you printed his OP (which isn't a bad thing to do). I'd ask for a full refund plus your shipping charges back to him.
O.K...... I am a little confused here on this. I take these types of posts fairly seriously, but I am reading some contradiction and some things that just don't sound right or seem quite suspicious - I just don't have enough info to determine "what" is exactly wrong here.
Bfusmc, you start this thread saying you "Got screwed" and bought a knife listed as "NIB" which is obvious to anyone who knows and uses the term to mean "NEW" in box. Anything other than factory mint new is unacceptable.
The knife you received as you described is "CLEARLY" not new or mint condition.
***** But, then you posted he listed the knife as: "the knife was slightly used not abused in very good condition as posted".
There is a BIG contradiction between "NIB" and "the knife was slightly used not abused in very good condition as posted. It must be one or the other and can't be both.
The "as posted" remark clearly implies that the for sale listing stated the knife was "slightly used not abused in very good condition" - which would strongly conflict with you stating the knife was listed as "NIB".
As others have mentioned, it doesn't take much to find the for sale listing and the seller's forum name/info.
But, to further muddy the water, the descriptions appear to have been edited out and the pictures are gone. As SPX stated: "Something smells here"!!!
So, what is the deal????????
If the knife was listed as: "slightly used not abused in very good condition" then unfortunately, the whole issue becomes very gray and opinions are going to be subjective. I think you have a responsibility as a buyer to ask more detailed questions, ask for more detailed pictures or analyze what was available. If you receive a knife that you feel is in lesser condition than you feel was advertized, you will have to work that out with the seller.
*** But, if the knife were listed as: "slightly used not abused in very good condition", you have made an unfair post here saying you "got screwed" and saying the knife was supposed to be "NIB".
But, if it was advertised as "NIB", why did you post (as if agreeing and confirming his comment) about the listing stating: "slightly used not abused in very good condition",
If the knife were advertised as "NIB", there is NO EXCUSE for the condition of the knife you described. If this is how the knife were advertised, I feel you have a responsibility to the rest of the forum to post what happened in the GB&U.
But, considering the contradictions I am reading, I think there needs to be more concise explanations and maybe some confirmation of statements at this point.
Unfortunately, with the seller having edited all of his listing info and pictures, we don't have any evidence to really know what happened here.
Again, as SPX stated: "Something smells here"!!!
I wish you had copied his original listing info and pictures to help support what is going on and being discussed here.
It is WRONG and inexcusable to mis-represent knives being sold here.
But, it would be even worse to trash someones reputation incorrectly stating things listed differently from how they were listed.
I am trying to be objective and base my thoughts on info as posted. I have never dealt with either Bfusmc or the seller (easy enough to figure out).
From how suspicious the sales listing thread looks, I tend to lean towards Bfusmc.
But, this thread still has contradicting info and makes this situation less than clear.
This forum requires a certain code of honor in it's dealings to function properly and so we can all trust each other. There will always be someone trying to get away with something. But, that is what the GB&U is for. That is how we keep checks and balances on each other.
Assuming the MUDD was actually described as "NIB" as you originally stated, even if the seller makes right, the seller "tried" to get away with something that the person shouldn't be allowed to get away with.
But, I am having problems with the contradicting statements posted on this thread. :thumbdn:
I need more clear and concise facts to help me with this story. Otherwise, I have to ignore the whole deal.
to see whom you bought the dinged up MUDD from but still "very respectful" never the less. (not to mention names)
, and enjoy!:thumbup:
