Just had a very dangerous incident with my Kel Tec P11

AKSpade said:
Sorry to get you "gentlemen" all ruffled with my salty language. Kel-Tecs are garbage. IF you own one, unload it,(lmao nevermind if you are the kind of guy who owns a kel-tec it probably isn't loaded...) take it to the nearest construction site and have them crush that bastard flat. Then feel good about yourself, you have possibly saved someone's life by not selling them your unreliable dangerous pistol! Now go buy a pistol that is built to a professional standard, (Glock, S&W, Sig, etc) and carry on.
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Are you referring to the same Glock that is currently going through quality control issues of their own regarding their newest generation of firearm?
The name of the firearm manufacturer has little to do with the reliability of the firearm in many stances. Lemons happen whether it be knives, guns, cars, so on and so forth.

Your attitude, as entertaining as it might be, won't get you too far here on Bladeforums.

Edit: And no, I do not own a Kel-Tec of any model.
 
Kel-tec did not invent the slam fire, and it sounds like the issue may have been related to a foreign object in the action (post #10). Until someone offers some real data that Kel-tecs are more prone than other guns to unintentional discharges, I will keep carrying my PF9. I don't know any more about Kel-tecs than the next guy, but I got on board with them way back in the P11 days and was active on ktog.org before most guys had every heard of Kel-tec. The claim that all Kel-tecs are garbage just does not conform to reality. Its fine not to like Kel-tecs, and I would agree that they don't have the design and build quality of Kahrs costing 3x as much. But to dismiss all Keltecs as garbage is, it seems to me, more of a dogmatic assertion than a defensible argument. Just my take on things. Rock on.
 
AKSpade said:
Sorry to get you "gentlemen" all ruffled with my salty language. Kel-Tecs are garbage. IF you own one, unload it,(lmao nevermind if you are the kind of guy who owns a kel-tec it probably isn't loaded...) take it to the nearest construction site and have them crush that bastard flat. Then feel good about yourself, you have possibly saved someone's life by not selling them your unreliable dangerous pistol! Now go buy a pistol that is built to a professional standard, (Glock, S&W, Sig, etc) and carry on.
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The only reason it's being mentioned is because there are only two subforums where coarse language is allowed. I don't think you'll find that it's anything most of us haven't heard before. Just trying to save you an infraction, that's all. But, have at it if you just have the need. Makes no never mind to me.

I agree with you about Kel Tecs, however. Had a catastrophic failure with a P3AT once. I sent it off to the factory for warranty repair, and promptly sold it when I got it back. Couldn't trust it anymore and I've never wasted money on any of their other models.
 
The opinion of Kel Tec's on this thread varies, I still can't say for sure on my end. If that piece of brass in the mechansim was the problem then I shouldn't have any trouble tomorrow when i go to the range and put 50rds through it.
 
I personally would never trust THAT firearm after a failure like that. If the store owner will let you have a credit I'd take it back and upgrade... even if it's just one of the new ones of the same model. I'm not slamming Kel-Tec... they're a good company. I personally like Kahr when it comes to pocket rockets but that's just personal taste. But I wouldn't care if it were a Kel-Tec or an Ed Brown. I wouldn't trust my life with a gun that had issues from day one.
 
Glad the OP nor anyone else wasn't injured. Good idea to breakdown, inspect and clean any new or used firearm before use at least that's my mantra. I also never commit a firearm to use until it's been fired for proper function which is also the first time it gets loaded.
 
Infi-del said:
I personally would never trust THAT firearm after a failure like that. If the store owner will let you have a credit I'd take it back and upgrade... even if it's just one of the new ones of the same model. I'm not slamming Kel-Tec... they're a good company. I personally like Kahr when it comes to pocket rockets but that's just personal taste. But I wouldn't care if it were a Kel-Tec or an Ed Brown. I wouldn't trust my life with a gun that had issues from day one.
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This is IMO good advice. Who's to say another piece of brass won't find its way in there again? Get rid of it and try something else. I stick with Kimber and Sig. I have not had any malfunctions with either. But there are a lot of other great makers out there.
 
Morrow said:
PG rated "bad words" like you could hear on network TV aren't going to attract a lot of attention but we really don't need the F-bomb being dropped in the discussion forums.
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Unfortunately, we're probably not too far from having the F-bomb allowed on network TV.

Funny, today I just read that the first episode of the Leave It To Beaver show, in which the Beav put a pet alligator in the toilet, was not aired. Apparently bathrooms and toilets could not be televised at the time.
 
Just got back from the range and put 80rds of 9mm luger down range and only had one stovepipe.
 
Badhammer said:
Glad the OP nor anyone else wasn't injured. Good idea to breakdown, inspect and clean any new or used firearm before use at least that's my mantra.
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Usually mine, but excitement got the best of me and it looked clean upon initial inspection. Also the only casualty were my boxers.
 
I.N.F.K said:
Usually mine, but excitement got the best of me and it looked clean upon initial inspection. Also the only casualty were my boxers.
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I'm real sorry for what happened with the Keltec, I've never owned one but I have had an AD once. Only once! I actually LOLed at the boxer reference! Sorry again my firend. My google-fu is relegated to short time tonight, but there's a frequent user in the Busse subforum who had to have corrective surgery because of the Keltec PMr30. Slide blew off into his face. There's a thread on it some where over there.
 
If this is turning into a general Kel tec thread, I should say that, like powernoodle, I had a P11 from their very beginning. (My serial number was just under 500.) It was a good reliable gun. When the P32 came out, I bought one right away. Again, it was (and is) a good reliable gun. I don't ever remember a jam. I did have a failure to fire once at a time that I REALLY wanted to gun to work, though. I was putting down a deer that someone had hit with their car. I pulled the trigger and the gun went click. Somehow, the mag release had been pushed in my pocket and had disengaged. That experience—having it click at a time of need turned me off of semi autos (almost) completely. I've had Walthers, S&W, and Glock. All of them jammed had jammed at one time or another—but never when I needed it. So— I only own revolvers now, although I still have the P32. I couldn't sell it for much, and there are two or three times a year when a threat is virtually nil, and I just can't carry anything bigger. I am obsessive about checking that mag release whenever I touch it, though.

(Yes, I know that even revolvers can, and do, occasionally fail.)
 
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I like revolvers I almost bought one, but the appeal of 10, 9mm rounds in a gun the size of a snub .38 was just to appealing and with minimal out of pocket cost. Next purchase will definitely have to be a revolver, I'm thinking a .357 for guarantee head removal :D
 
Well my P-11 was made March 2009. Surprised its even that old considereing the very little wear on it, must've been owned by someone who didn't like it or wasn't a fan of guns.
 
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