Just in case Busse?

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OmegaA

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Hello, guys,

When I go for camping I do not usually have much need for a tough knife (you cannot make open fires in forests in the UK, except disposable BBQs), but you cannot say with 100% confidence that tough knife is not needed. Therefore I would like to have a Busse knife just in case I need something for heavy work.

So, the knife will be used very rarely, I will carry it most of the time without use, i.e. it should be:

1. lightweight and
2. preferably compact.

What Busse would you recommend for this?

Regards,
P.S.: if I know I will need do some heavy work I will take axe. So, it is really going to be a knife for unexpected use.
 
Expect the un-expected ;) A nice sized blade for "lite" camping might be the Satin Jack. My personal preference is my SH-E Variant, AS, and my new Leaner Meaner. I must add though that when I was in the military, I carried a SHBM or Basic 9 on my LBV for the last few years I was in except for desert enviorments where I carried my SJ. Spent a few weeks in Wales training with your TA's back in the late 90's and given the enviorment, I believe a SJ would do you just fine over there on your side of the pond.
Just my .02 worth.
Bob Mills
 
depends on if you need it for chopping or not.... I usually carry a Natural Outlaw for any chopping and either a Satin Jack or Active Duty for lighter work.... but I think the mean streen I have on order will get alot of camp time when it arrives
 
I would reccomend either a Satin Jack or Natural Outlaw Ergo (Both 6 inch blades) for light utility tasks as these are small but still able to be functional for many tasks. If you want a seven inch blade, I would go for a SFNO or Steel Heart Ergo. I have been thinking getting a Satin Jack for light utility around camp and where a larger blade draws to much attention. Although I also like the look of the Meaner Street. Damn it! To many great choices. :D

Try www.bussecompanystore.com for what you are looking at, for the other choices I would guess the secondary market will be the only option.

Good luck in your search.
 
Agreed, either the Satin Jack (SJ), or one of the Outlaw versions, the original e-handled (NO-e), or the new SFNO.

Both offer a 6" (~15cm) blade, a bit more blade beef is on the Outlaws, but more "friendly" looks of the SJ might make it your best choice.

The SJ wouldn't be my first choice for chopping (lighter blade), but as a general purpose camp knife, definitely a good choice.

The NO's are some good choppers, having sufficient blade mass to reduce the amount of work one must do. Would even soemwhat eliminate the need for an ax, unless you intend to do some MAJOR chopping.

Good luck in your quest.
 
Define compact :) I have a Natural Outlaw-e, and while some here may regard it as a "smaller" blade it's actually quite huge compared to most other knives out there. What blade length are you looking for, what sort of things do you see yourself doing with it?
 
As much as I would like to recommend the NO as a "just in case" tool, your specifications of Light and Compact rule it out, in my opinion. Therefore a 1/4" stock Satin Jack may be the largest Busse to fit your needs. If that is too beefy consider the 3/16" stock combat grade SJ, which is easier to find, and probably less expensive than it's fatter brother. (The new Satin Jack Tac is larger than either of these, but might be worth considering. I think it is too close to the old NO to be described as light and compact, though.)

Now, you may also want to consider a Badger Attack 3, a very fine knife at 3/16" INFI with a 4.5" blade. I would think that the SJ with it's 6" blade would be much more capable in the woods, but the BA3 will be more affordable, easier to find, and will get you less hassle from the police over there.

In between the Satin Jack and BA3 you have the Badger Attack-Ergo. This is a very serious tool at 1/4" thick, 5'' blade, and 10" overall length. It is also very rare, and will run you $280 to $400+ depending on what shape it is in, what sheath(s) it may have, and what modifications have been done to it. Never mind the expense, this may be the best compromise between BA3 and SJ.
Check out http://www.badmojo.tv/ for more info on these models.

The NARK is within your size and weight limits, but it's band breaker style spine rules out batonning, so I would discourage it for woods and survival purposes. And I would not recommend the Meaner Street when BA3s are still available in the secondary market.

I hope this has been more helpful than confusing.
jb
 
I would lean toward the BA3 from what you have said. I agree with JWBirch. You can do a lot with a 4.5" blade. Here is a link that shows firecraft with a Howling Rat.

I think that 4.5 inches is a great size for a "sheeple friendly" but versatile blade.

:D -360
 
OmegaA said:
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Therefore I would like to have a Busse knife just in case I need something for heavy work.

So, the knife will be used very rarely, I will carry it most of the time without use, i.e. it should be:

1. lightweight and
2. preferably compact.

What Busse would you recommend for this?

Regards,
P.S.: if I know I will need do some heavy work I will take axe. So, it is really going to be a knife for unexpected use.
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I'm not sure of your definition of "heavy work". I would recommend any of the following, especially based on your criteria of light weight:
1) BA3, in either .150" ("anorexic" model) or 3/16" thickness
2) SJ 3/16"
3) ZTNO (Zero Tolerance Natural Outlaw) 3/16"
The BA3 is the most compact of the three listed. They are all tough knives.

Gene
 
I would recommend a Badger Attack 3.

It's small enough to carry everywhere, and robust enough to handle just about anything.

If you would like it to be more of a slicer than a bruiser, get the Anorexic version.
 
satin jack for you, plenty big enough for any chore but small enough for a pack. remember if you have to "chop" you can use a baton on the spine and chop very well.
 
Right, what is "just in case"?
You go to for hiking our camping and come back without using the knife most of the time. So, it is really some extra weight which you carry just in case. Perhaps, like carrying a handgun for self-defence - you carry it, but use it only once or twice in your life if you ever use it.
I do not like to carry too much extra weight, so I usually prefer having everything lightweight. I cannot say much about blade length (I guess this is what I would like to learn from you what you think it the most suitable blade length), but 3/16 thickness will do fine, if not thinner.
Regards,
 
considering that i now have 6 things attached to my belt at any given time, and probably 10 other mid sized items in my pants pockets at all times, im probably not a good judge of what this kind of knife should be.

but i do carry one for that expressed purpose. sort of.... i carry my 1/4" satin jack on my left hip as a hard use knife, like during the forth of july when we were using a pvc pipe as a piccolo pete/ground bloom cannon, and needed it to be in the ground, but couldnt get it through the crab grass. out comes the sj. its also in case any of my other knives break in use.

in my bag though, i carry a busse i litterally never use, but always carry, everwhere. and that is the terror monkey battle mistress with serrations and the slighter of the two handle mods. the only real purpose i've ever had for a knife that big in daily life is for spitting firewood at a beach party, but i carry it never the less. because YOU NEVER KNOW :D.
 
It's mostly a question of "what's too big for you to consider" I'd look at the Badger Attack , Satin Jack, and Meaner Street and see which one of those most fits your idea of what you want. The real concern is whether you need to do any chopping and if the areas you're at have any rules regarding larger knives. For any sort of chopping the Satin Jack and Badger Attack III are as small as I'd want, the Natural Outlaw-e has more than enough mass to take care of most anything, but like I said is a bit big, and doesn't really fit into my idea of "compact". The most inexpensive option is probably the Meaner Street model T, the thickness is inbetween the Leaner Meaner street and Meaner street, and only comes in one color and handle material, which reduces production costs(and is carried to the user, it's the least expensive new Busse's at under 200 dollars US). The Meaner Streets have a 4 inch blade, and I'd imagine even the thinnest ones to be indestructible with your bare hands, with the full thickness Meaner Street to most definately fall into the indestructible category.
 
Double cut doesn't really hide anything, the blast media is too fine to obscure any sloppy work and in fact would probably just make any mistakes stand out more. If my understanding of the production protocol is right it's more or less an arbitrary thing, double cut just wasn't in the lineup for the last production run on the satin jacks, and since it's one of the few finishes not offered this time, the next run aught to have it.
 
My vote goes the BAE, because it's thick and wide and has the forward swept handle, it should beat the SJ in chopping. It's almost like a stubby Natural Outlaw, and maybe even more versatile. It's a huge small knife.
 
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