just purchased a survive knives gso 4.1 in s90v steel

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I can't wait for that knife to arrive! Guy said s90v has a great wear resistance. Has anyone used this steel in the outdoors? Will fallknivens dc4 ceramic side enough to hone its edge? Opinions are highly needed. Thanks
 
I haven't used S90V and I didn't even know he offered it, I thought it was all 3v and m390. To know if your stone will work, I would compare the wear resistance of S90V to that of VG10, if its comparable then the ceramic should work fine. My dc4 works well on S30V.
 
HardTripper said:
I haven't used S90V and I didn't even know he offered it, I thought it was all 3v and m390. To know if your stone will work, I would compare the wear resistance of S90V to that of VG10, if its comparable then the ceramic should work fine. My dc4 works well on S30V.
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VG10 has no where near the wear resistance of S90V. S90V is very, very rich in vanadium carbide.
 
Polamalu said:
How does s90v respond to a leather hone with black or green compound? I have a black ceramic rod from mac knives my question is will it be enough
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Just don't let it get dull and you might be ok, I have used s90v a little bit, and at the time all I had was the sharpmaker, and It would get the edge back to a working edge, but I couldn't get it back to an original hair popping edge, I'm sure it's possible , It's just gonna take awhile...
 
The flip side of a highly wear resistant knife is that it should hold an edge longer and require sharpening less often. Your ceramic should be much harder than the steel, but you won't be sharpening as fast as you would with a less wear resistant knife. If you chip out the edge it is going to take a lot longer than usual to repair the damage, so these high wear resistance knives are normally used for slicing and not chopping or batoning. That said you can probably do anything you need to with the knife as long as you use a bit of caution while figuring out how much abuse the knife can take.
 
^ whittling/carving yeah, you don't want to baton with it though.
VG-10 has nothing on S90V in wear resistance, not even close.

Use diamond to sharpen it if you can.
 
S90V sharpens up like anything else. I can use Choseras or DMT plates, it all works the same. And Chromium Oxide (green) works just fine.

If you want some cheap stones, hit up Congress Tools. I bought a dozen assorted stones there last year for about $30 shipped. They make a great SiC stone, which is what I like. They DO NOT clog and wear slowly.
 
The Fallkniven DC3/DC4 will work well in the field for your S90V. I have a few S90V knives from other makers and that is normally what I carry for a field sharpener along with a small loaded strop. Another field sharpening option for high wear resistant steels such as S90V is the DMT Diafold (Fine/Coarse).
 
Why can't you use s90v for batoning? its the same toughness as 440c and i've seen entrek knives getting worked
 
Brisket said:
The Fallkniven DC3/DC4 will work well in the field for your S90V. I have a few S90V knives from other makers and that is normally what I carry for a field sharpener along with a small loaded strop. Another field sharpening option for high wear resistant steels such as S90V is the DMT Diafold(Fine/Coarse).
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whats the difference between pushing forward sharpening as oppose to pulling backwards like how you sharpen convex edges.
 
Polamalu said:
Why can't you use s90v for batoning? its the same toughness as 440c and i've seen entrek knives getting worked
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Well theres nothing to say you cant, but if you do chip it your going to be in a far worse situation then if you chipped 440C due to the much increased wear resistance.

May aswell just use the 440C if you want to baton? as you said its as tough as the S90V, and the wear resistance isnt really going to help you while batoning, its just going to make it a whole heap harder to fix the edge if you do take a chunk out of it.
 
Just got mine today - the only time I have had so far was to inbox it and fondle for a few minutes.

I hope to have time this weekend to do some cutting to see what it can do.
 
seems like a really strange steel to use in this application. it's very expensive and its main strength is abrasion resistance in a way which doesn't come into play as much with the woodsy, dirty work. and the trade off is greatly reduced edged stability, which is something you would want for the way this knife is marketed...

Strange mix of features, IMO.
 
i have a phil wilson collab with Spyderco (the south fork), it uses s90v and after using it for a while i agree with Goodeyesniper.the knife itself does not serve as my primary camp knife, I use it only for food prepping.
 
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