Just recieved my 0561. Is this normal?

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Sensi703

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For the reason the lock bar REALLY engages sometimes while other times it engages enough. I would use the flipper to deploy the blade and then switch my hand position to get a full grip and I hear the lock bar slide in the a little more. This makes is extremely difficult to disengage the lock bar. Is this normal and just needs to be broken in or is something out of spec here? Also, I find it really difficult to deploy the blade if you are gripping the knife and applying even light pressure to the lock bar. Again, is this normal and just needs to be broken in?
 
No, it is not normal to receive your 0561.:D I couldn't resist. Applying pressure to the lock bar not making it open is normal, as far as I know. I'm sure there are much more knowledgeable people out there, though
 
Give it a little time to break in and if needed, take apart and reassemble the knife.
 
I'm just hoping I didn't receive a defective knife because the looks and ergonomics of it are amazing. The lock-up is really inconsistent. Sometimes the lockbar would disengage with appropriate pressure while other times the lock bar really wedges itself into the knife requiring quite a bit of pressure to disengage it. I also hear the LB grinding against the knife when this happens.
 
There's a short break-in period. Keep flipping it and it will work itself out. Mine did.
 
if you want you can take a thin sharpie marker and color the surface of the lockbar with the sharpie marker to help with the stiction. This is on the recommendation of RJ martin for his flipper folders. It works like a charm and will not promote grime and dirt to adhere like other lubricants. The sharpie will wear off by the time the knife is broken in more. But IMHO you lock bar does not seem to be traveling to far. Lockbars are like women. Everyone likes em different. For me anything between 25% and 75% travel is acceptable to me. I dont like a lock bar to be able to move so far that it touches the scale right out of the box.
 
Sensi, check to see if the lockbar is rubbing the blade. I was a little tough to see in your video. I've also vote for the tearr down and reassembly. Give a shot and let us know. The lockup looks normal, it's solid and that is ultimately a good spot.
 
RevDevil said:
Sensi, check to see if the lockbar is rubbing the blade. I was a little tough to see in your video. I've also vote for the tearr down and reassembly. Give a shot and let us know. The lockup looks normal, it's solid and that is ultimately a good spot.
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It feels like there may be a bur or the lock bar is engaging on a very acute angle causing a high amount of friction. I'll reassemble it and see what happens. I'll do the sharpie recommendation per PURPLEDC but it just kind of disappointing seeing these other 0560/0561's on youtube and the locks are disengaging real smooth right out of the box; and then offer to sell it! I am not going to sell my ZT0561 as I completely love the ergos of it. I might have to send this one in for a replacement however...
 
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S703, a ti framelock can be a tad sticky on occasion. No need to panic or complain...relax. Can be a bit inherent with this type of lock set-up.

Couple of things:

If this is your first ti frame lock, give it some time to break in. The sharpie trick can be effective. If you find that you can't get the piece to unlock smoothly, don't take it apart unless you have the tools to do so, and please understand what you're doing before attempting. If you do strip it down, perhaps video tape it so we can critique your tear down and put together. ;)

As to the centering, it looks like you're splitting hairs.

To the late lock up, if your considering your 0561 late (looked acceptable to me), what the heck is that CS all about?
 
Not panicking or complaining so I don't know what that's about. Just wondering what's good with my 0561. Probably not going to return it. Just mentioning the centering in case someone that knows more than I do can chime in if that was effecting the lock. I was showing the CS to demonstrate how I think these type of blade stops should operate. My CS Ti-TL did require some breaking in before it the lock operated that smoothly. I took apart my CS Ti-TL many a times hence the crappy blade centering lol.
 
Sensi703 said:
Not panicking or complaining so I don't know what that's about.
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Well between the title of your video, the word "defective" added in the text, to go along with some colorful adjectives within the video itself, led me to understand...you know, that you were...you know. Well, unless those were words and descriptions of enjoyment and satisfaction. :)
 
Im having the exact same problem.
Same sticky lock, and off center to the left.
I also refuse to get rid of it because it's great otherwise. And its SHARP
I've only heard good things about ZT Cust serv so im not worried.
 
Thomas W said:
Well between the title of your video, the word "defective" added in the text, to go along with some colorful adjectives within the video itself, led me to understand...you know, that you were...you know. Well, unless those were words and descriptions of enjoyment and satisfaction. :)
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I really do love the knife and can't wait to use it at work and yeah, excuse the French lol. That's just how my brothers and I talk when we're chillin.

bigmark408 said:
That knife looks fine to me....the way you handle it looks wrong....some types of knives are wrong for some people.
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Do explain to me what is wrong with the way I am handling the knife, keep in mind I'm trying to keep the knife in view of my Iphone which is just perched up against my speaker. I have enough folders to know that a lock should not be this difficult to disengage. There is no such thing as a wrong knife for me.

ajbuckelew said:
There's obviously something very wrong... send it to me immediately for disposal ;) :D
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Never!!!! :D

HuntBomb said:
Im having the exact same problem.
Same sticky lock, and off center to the left.
I also refuse to get rid of it because it's great otherwise. And its SHARP
I've only heard good things about ZT Cust serv so im not worried.
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Yeah the knife feels real good in the hand and I'm really digging the dark earth scales. Gonna mess with it for a bit and let the parts mate before I go through customer service since I just received it in the mail today and am in no hurry to see her go.
 
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After viewing your video, I don't see anything wrong with that knife. The centering is very slightly off, but that is not an issue-it does not rub on the liners. If you wish to correct it, then it is easy to do yourself. Titanium frame locks are sometimes hard to unlock. It will loosen slightly with use and you can always use a pencil on the lock face which will usually ease unlocking a sticky lock. You could also work on strengthening your fingers' grip!

I still wonder where all of the concern over centering came about. It is an Internet phenomenon! It is also nearly always fixable. As long as the blade doesn't rub on the liners, it is not really an issue.
 
Ti-Frame locks on occasion will have a sticky lock when new. Titanium has a tendency to stick and being a new knife the surfaces of the lock bar and blade tang may be rough and need a chance
to mate and wear in. The percentage lock up is perfectly fine and so is the blade centering. Give it a couple days and keep opening and closing and it will get better for sure. The sharpie trick is good and you can also rub graphite (pencil lead) on the blade tang to help with friction.
 
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