KABAR USMC fighting knife.

Civilians have killed more people using knives than any army in the world. Probably thousandfold more. Some of them are actually at it right now, as we are discussing the issue for the thousandth time... And I think neither civilians nor military should care that much about what knife to use - as long as it meets some minimal requirements. Like being there...
That is just the thing that I wish to say for some time now. Sorry!
Why military or special service are considered to be such an experts? Do not they have something better to use these days? Most civilians do not - so they may have reasons to use knives and try to learn how to harm and possibly kill other civilians more efficiently and surely using these tools... And if somebody from the military happened to be an expert - should not he care about the knife brand and design even less than any novice or any mall ninja? Isn't he the expert after all? :)

Master of the sword does not have favorite sword....
 
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Poez said:
Civilians have killed more people using knives than any army in the world. Probably thousandfold more. Some of them are actually at it right now, as we are discussing the issue for the thousandth time... And I think neither civilians nor military should care that much about what knife to use - as long as it meets some minimal requirements. Like being there...
That is just the thing that I wish to say for some time now. Sorry!
Why military or special service are considered to be such an experts? Do not they have something better to use these days? Most civilians do not - so they may have reasons to use knives and try to learn how to harm and possibly kill other civilians more efficiently and surely using these tools... And if somebody from the military happened to be an expert - should not he care about the knife brand and design even less than any novice or any mall ninja? Isn't he the expert after all? :)

Master of the sword does not have favorite sword....
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The Military are the experts because that is what they train for and do for a living when they are called up to action.

If you have never been in the Military, specifically the Infantry you will never understand, there is no way you that ever could unless you have been there for real. Sorry but that is just how it is, people can talk all they want about things, but until they have been in the club they will never get it really.

And no, I didn't put a lot of thought into what knife I used or carried while I was in, I carried a K-Bar most of the time though because it worked for what I needed it to do when I needed it.

Marines are a VERY tight group and it's true once a Marine, always a Marine and all Marines are brothers and that is something that can never be taken away, civilians will never understand what that really means.

I am sure things have changed since I was in during the Cold War days, I got out 25 years ago, but the basics are still there.
 
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Well said. The only way to find out is to join. Period. I was Army, but always envied the Marines for their Esprit de Corps. Just placed my order for a USMC KaBar, can't wait til it finds it's home with a Marine!
 
I am not going to argue. Because that was not the point.
I have been to army, and have a different perception about knife use. Probably because it was not the US army - could be. I personally think that the main difference is in how each of us understand term "expert". I do not see everybody who received training and does something for living an expert.
Sorry, no offense meant.

I wish we all were experts in what we do for living...
So are you really so good and know everything to know about it, or you have just repeated the same experience a few thousand times?
 
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I am not going to argue. Because that was not the point.
I have been to army, and have a different perception about knife use. Probably because it was not the US army - could be. I personally think that the main difference is in how each of us understand term "expert". I do not see everybody who received training and does something for living an expert.
Sorry, no offense meant.

I wish we all were experts in what we do for living...
So are you really so good and know everything to know about it, or you have just repeated the same experience a few thousand times?
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I think I see what you're saying...
Such as: My mother has made thousands of cutting strokes, preparing countless meals, but that does not make her a knife expert.
Ehh?
 
puukkoman said:
I think I see what you're saying...
Such as: My mother has made thousands of cutting strokes, preparing countless meals, but that does not make her a knife expert.
Ehh?
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Yes, that is very good way of putting it. She uses knives every single day, and spends more time with knife in her hand than I ever do. But I would not recommend to use her as an expert for developing a new kitchen knife concept. All you will probably get - another cheap "stainless steel" knife she uses in her kitchen. :)
On another hand, she is an expert. No matter what are the knives she uses, she will have the family diner cooked on time and in full...
She just does not care about knives. Like many slotter house workers who use knives expertly, but mostly use all the same knives they are issued... To become an expert in something you have not only use it, but also care about what you use. ;)
 
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I carried a Kabar while serving in the Marines from 80 to 84.It did everything I used a knife for,things have'nt changed that much in the field,I don't think.I imagine war is the same way when it comes to knife needs.Does anyone else smell Troll?
 
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.....Does anyone else smell Troll?
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I am saying anything offensive? Something outright ridiculous, meaning only to upset others? What makes you think I am a Troll? Could it be just a troll? :yawn:

What is it so wrong here about sharing your own opinion instead of sharing everybody else's? :confused:

P.S. If your experience with US Marines has made you a knife expert, or you have met such an expert there, just say so, end of story... :o
 
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Bought one for my son before his first tour in Iraq, he carried it on all three tours and never needed it for selfdefenses but brought it with him every time. I have a BK7 and had I known about them I would have bougt him one of those. But you really can't go wrong with the original. It's a BADD AZZZ MUTHUR
 
At 64+ Stainz said it all for me. For in fact, the last few years when I could buy what ever I wanted, I am in fact a pretender.
 
The USMC (or the kraton handle modernized version) is pretty the best knife you can get for it's size, quality, and value. It is the Buck 110 of fixed blades (the 119 can hush up, 1095 beats the 420HC for most everything but corrosion resistance). With the design being around pretty much forever, it has to be doing something perfectly.
 
Poez said:
Civilians have killed more people using knives than any army in the world. Probably thousandfold more. Some of them are actually at it right now, as we are discussing the issue for the thousandth time... And I think neither civilians nor military should care that much about what knife to use - as long as it meets some minimal requirements. Like being there...
That is just the thing that I wish to say for some time now. Sorry!
Why military or special service are considered to be such an experts? Do not they have something better to use these days? Most civilians do not - so they may have reasons to use knives and try to learn how to harm and possibly kill other civilians more efficiently and surely using these tools... And if somebody from the military happened to be an expert - should not he care about the knife brand and design even less than any novice or any mall ninja? Isn't he the expert after all? :)

Master of the sword does not have favorite sword....
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This is one of the scariest and most disturbing things I have read in a long long time! Just the thought of someone running around loose in public that has been holding that statement in "for some time now" really scares me and is the basis for why people carry guns!
 
James0723 said:
How is what he said scary?

I agree with you Poez.
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Thank you James!

Sorry if I have shocked anybody, or intimidated... It was not my intention.
The things I have said were not even original. They are sort of common place.
Like kitchen knife as a deadliest weapon used by civilians in any country... Not everywhere guns are so accessible as in US. So killing with knife is much more common in our every-day life, than in actual military conflict. And I do not even want to think about machete in hand of some militia of so ever popular "rebel"...
Or the fact that in many countries military do not get issued standard knives. They get everything of importance, including socks and carrying bags but not the knives. Probably because knives are not important - whatever soldier gets by himself will do.
In some other countries they issue - and most people wish they just did not, and better let them buy something half-decent instead. That is the version I know quite well...
Sorry to give somebody some disturbing thoughts. That is probably again about the way I put it down. Did not want to upset anybody guys! Sorry!
 
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