Kershaw Blur S30V vs Spyderco Paramilitary 2

I can also recommend the spyderco stretch, it's a slicer for sure and very ergonomic.
It would be hard to chose between the stretch and the blur.
 
JDX said:
Thanks guys I appreciate all the info, and if there's knives you feel are better than those in the same price range ($100 or less, but preferably $75 or less)
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Just curious. Where are you finding a PM2 for under $100 never mind under $75? I don't consider a Blur as a good comparison to a PM2. They are just in different leagues. It would be the same as comparing a Honda Civic to a Toyota Camry. I have never wanted the Blur (no lefty, no interest), but from all I've read about it, comparing it to the Delica/Endura line would be more fair. I would look at ZT for a more fair comparison. 2 that come to mind are the 0350 and a 0566. both can be had for around $100 if you look hard enough.
In the end the decision is yours. The truly best advice I can give is to get one of each in your hands and things will clear up quickly.

Just my twopence.
Have fun
 
The S30v is certainly comparable to the PM2. The Blurs build quality and materials match knives past its price point.
 
I have four Blurs and two PM2's, so that shows my preference. They're both designed to be medium use knives, but if I was going to push the limits of these knives, I feel that the Blur would hold up better than the PM2, judging from my experiences.
The PM2 seems to have a small advantage in slicing, but the Blur just cuts better (maybe because of the recurve), for me. Blade strength goes to the Blur. Lock strength goes to the PM2. None of my blurs have any blade play, whatsoever. The PM2's are notoriously finicky, when it comes to blade play. Both carry well and won't slip, in hand, during normal use.
Handle both knives, if possible, before you choose. Either one will serve you well.

I'm surprised that there's been no mention of the BM Griptilian (I own four of these, as well), another medium use/sized knife that is definitely in the same class as these two.
 
Something I forgot to mention: my Blur used to have no blade play, but after taking it apart to clean it and re-tightening the pivot screw, the pivot screw became loose over time. I keep having to tighten it once it gets loose to get rid of any blade play. I am almost 100% sure this is due to removal of any Loctite in the pivot when I cleaned it, so I'm pretty sure if I where to put a drip of Loctite in my pivot I wouldn't have this problem. I just haven't gotten around to it. So if you do this you shouldn't have any problems. And the nice thing about having the Blur assisted is that you can tighten the pivot screw down pretty hard, and the blade will still shoot out. I've removed the spring of my Blur before, but in order for it to fold open (or flick open) smoothly I had to loosen the pivot a little, which resulted in some blade play. I don't think you would have this problem with a PM2. But if you are okay with leaving the Blur assisted, you shouldn't have any problems.
 
uxo2 said:
That I agree with.

BM and KAI..
Break a blade. Send it in with 30 bucks.
Bent your clip. Call and they will send you another.

Spydi.. Break a blade.. SOL buy another.
bend your clip.. Buy another.


But I still favor a PM2 over the Blur for the ergos and Compresssion lock.
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Sorry but no. Spyderco has sent me free clips a few times, and they often won't charge you to replace the blade, unless you did something really dumb with your knife. So instead of paying 10 bucks, you pay no bucks, which is why most of my collection is Spyderco. I don't get why the blade replacement programs are looked at so well. All those companies used to replace the blade for free, but now they charge and everyone is happy they can use their knife to pry.
 
cncpro11 said:
I have dealt with W / R from both companies and both are outstanding.
They answered all of my questions, gave me all the information I asked for, and took care of my issues with no worry.
How was your experience with Spyderco lacking?
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Basically what UXO2 said is what I was referencing to.

uxo2 said:
That I agree with.

BM and KAI..
Break a blade. Send it in with 30 bucks.
Bent your clip. Call and they will send you another.
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Plus the 2 warranties speak for themselves.

Spyderco's

http://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/index.php?item=10

If you notice Spydeco never explicitly states that their knives have a lifetime warranty. In fact they have the "right" to send you back an older knife unfixed and tell you to retire it.

Compare that to Kershaw's

http://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/warranty

Here they state that the knife is covered by a lifetime warranty, along with other services they offer.


I have never dealt with Spyderco's customer service but I have heard horror stories of them losing knives, not answering e-mails, not answering the phone.
I did contact Kershaw once to get a new clip for my ZT 0300. They sent me an e-mail back the next day, and not only sent me a clip, but also new washers, a set of screws and a second clip. All for free.
 
uxo2 said:
That I agree with.

BM and KAI..
Break a blade. Send it in with 30 bucks.
Bent your clip. Call and they will send you another.

Spydi.. Break a blade.. SOL buy another.
bend your clip.. Buy another.


But I still favor a PM2 over the Blur for the ergos and Compresssion lock.
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With Kershaw, the blade replacement price is generally much less than $30. With a Kershaw, it is almost always $10. With a ZT, it is $30. Kershaw is also known to replace blades or outright replace knives sometimes without charging anything. And I do not believe they charge a premium on the premium blades (or at least not most of them). They replaced a blade for me once that was CPM-154 and another in CPM-S30V with a DLC coating...10 bucks.

I have no complaints on Spyderco's customer service at all. Service has been fair, prompt, and effective. But Kershaw is without doubt better and I think they are probably the best knife company as far as customer service goes. Ultimately, if someone has a Kershaw or a ZT (as well as a Benchmade) and needs service after initial purchase, end-users will generally find that their out-of-pocket expenses are generally the least (and in some cases, nothing) from those companies. Spyderco makes their position on clip replacement clear, but it is a bit of a pain if you need a new clip for whatever reason and it generally costs money.

I agree with you I like the ergos, grind, and lock on the PM2 more. But at the same time, I like ELMAX a lot more than I do S30V.

The warranty aspect may be more or less important depending on the individual.
 
JDX said:
How do I go about deassisting it ?
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Take apart the knife by removing the pivot screw and all the body screws (take it apart while the blade is open, unless you want the blade flying across the room :p). The left scale has a cutout covered over by a steel plate. By removing the plate, it will reveal the cutout where the torsion bar is held (there should be a decent amount of grease there too). Just take out the torsion bar, and put everything back together how it was (without the torsion bar this time, obviously). It's very simple to do. I've done it before, but personally I prefer the knife assisted. I hope that helps :thumbup:.
 
I have a blur and I like it for the most part, but I have a lot of knives in my EDC rotation so I don't carry the Blur anymore. Comparing with the PM2 I like the PM2 better and have 2 of them that I carry. But for about half the price a Blur is a pretty good knife.

Things I don't like about the blur- the rough texture inserts on the handle, and I really don't like the stonewashed blade. To me it makes the Blur look too cheap, so that affects how I perceive the Blur. OTOH I like the shape and size of the Blur, except for the little recurve in the blade, and my Blur is the quickest and most positive folder I have to open.
 
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