Kershaw chill

[GenoGT]

Okay i read that link ,can someone delete there own post? I looked to see if there is a way to do that but i didnt see a option of anywere to do that. I would delete both to stay within the rules but i couldnt find a way. Im all for rules ect. My appolgys.

 

[Dan of Bazz Clazz]

The Whole Community upholds the "standards", & the non paying members should read the rules, and follow them.
Or upgrade membership, so maybe they "care" about The Community...

I have no argument with anything regarding you are saying. I will say, as I did in my previous post is that the "Standards" are not at issue, but rather their application and the language that is being used in this thread that is causing concern.

1. The OP never asked for a monetary value, he was asking for a yes/no answer. So that precludes the need for gold membership IMO
2. The OP was also not asking with regards to a unknown knife, he was asking with regards to a readily and currently available, known retail selling price knife.
3. Yes the OP could and probably should have just searched for the knife on any number of retail sites to find that the knife is readily available and what it is retailing for. That would tell the market value of the knife w/o question. Maybe he did that, and was simply asking if others felt that this knife represented huge bang for the buck. Maybe the OP is just a troll and asking a silly question to stir things up as trolls are wont to do. I have no idea. It was odd to ask if 2x the retail price worth paying. That right there puts the question firmly in the odd category as opposed to a serious, "what is the value of knife X?" question.

What I do know, is that as I said before, it will be up to the moderators and/or owner of the forum, to determine if the OP has broken the rules. They will then take what ever action they see fit.

With regards to your comments about the community upholding the standards. Yes you are correct. Without those standards, the quality of this website and forum would drop tremendously.

However, some here seem to feel it their own personal duty to jump on every infraction they feel has been committed. I have lately seen a rather sad increase of the number of new comers being shot down by others on this forum for posts that to my mind do not violate the rules. One that sticks out in my mind happened a couple of weeks ago. A newbie was asking about the identity of a knife. A forum participant then proceeded to "read the law to the OP" in a very telling way by saying "... and before you ask the inevitable what is it worth..."
The next post in the thread was a moderator who killed the thread.

On the surface an independent observer, is not maintaining the community standards, that is a self righteous vigilante mentality. If the rule isn't being broken there is no call or right to be slamming someone about it.

Now. Because the moderator killed the thread there may have been more going on behind the scenes or in the history of the OP and the forum, I do not know. The OP may have been bad news and deserved to be pulled due to past events and history. I do not know. All I am reporting is what I saw and read, and what was publically visible as to what transpired. Which ultimately, is what anyone, member or not, could see. That particular thread did not show the forum in its best form IMO.

I am not using this as fact, regarding this specific incident because I am not certain I have all the facts. It was the moderator who made the call and I hope the moderator had all of the facts and was justified in the actions taken. I AM using this incident as an example to illustrate the extremist behavior shown on the part of some who feel justified in attacking others, backed up by the "authority" they feel they have from the forum rules. After seeing it a few times, it becomes obvious that it is not enforcement of the standards of the community that is important, but rather the brandishing of their own "power" they feel endowed with from the rules. It makes for some rather rude and unfriendly posts and unfortunately, I seem to be seeing a lot more of them lately. The current post being just one example.

I am all for the standards. But let us know and understand what they actually are and the core principle they are there for, instead of jumping on others for misinterpretation of the standard, the intent, or what was actually sent. Even more importantly, don't try to enforce the standard if it has not been violated. If you do feel required to remind someone of the rules, doing so politely is by far the preferred method and actually itself, in line with the standards and intent of the community.

Rant over.