Kershaw Scallion or Gerber Applegate mini covert?

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daggerman99

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I like both of these knives, they are also both made in the USA. They are about the same price, which I won't go into heavy detail about. The gerber mini covert seems very nice, and then again so does the Kershaw Scallion. If you have owned one of these knives, let me know your experiences with them and which one you would Reccomend. I would have these as COLLECTIBLES to store away, not an EDC knife. Thanks
 
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Neither one of these is really a traditional (think slipjoints like Case, Queen, etc.)
Personally, I would not buy a Gerber. The QC is not what it used to be on these knives.
 
QC = Quality Control.

Your thread has been moved to the appropriate sub-forum.
 
Blues said:
QC = Quality Control.

Your thread has been moved to the appropriate sub-forum.
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Actually I believe a gerber Applegate is a traditional folder, it is in my eyes I'm not around very old knives that much. And it has 2 traditional people's signatures on it or names, as a memorial to them I believe. Why can't I just get a message warning on this site? I didn't do anything that wrong. I meant to put this somewhere else, but the site isn't that user friendly. This is my last post and I'm leaving bladeforums after this.
 
RevDevil said:
Neither one of these is really a traditional (think slipjoints like Case, Queen, etc.)
Personally, I would not buy a Gerber. The QC is not what it used to be on these knives.
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I would purchase one of these as a collectible to store away, not an everyday knife.
 
daggerman99 said:
Actually I believe a gerber Applegate is a traditional folder, it is in my eyes I'm not around very old knives that much. And it has 2 traditional people's signatures on it or names, as a memorial to them I believe. Why can't I just get a message warning on this site? I didn't do anything that wrong. I meant to put this somewhere else, but the site isn't that user friendly. This is my last post and I'm leaving bladeforums after this.
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(1) The Applegate is, in no way, a traditional folder. Its quintessentially tactical. Exact opposite of traditional.

(2) You lied about that being your last post. :)

(3) Honestly, they are both mass production folders and socking them away somewhere because of their "collectibility" seems kind of pointless. Its not like they are going to go up in value. Just my opinion.
 
Everybody relax. The thread isn't in Traditional any more, but that doesn't mean you have to become less friendly. :)

"Where you sit determines what you see." To someone relatively new to knives, any good or classic design may seem collectible or a tradition in their circle. We can explain our terminology to them without condescension.
 
daggerman99 said:
I like both of these knives, they are also both made in the USA. They are about the same price, which I won't go into heavy detail about. The gerber mini covert seems very nice, and then again so does the Kershaw Scallion. If you have owned one of these knives, let me know your experiences with them and which one you would Reccomend. I would have these as COLLECTIBLES to store away, not an EDC knife. Thanks
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The Kershaw Scallion is made in the USA however the Gerber Mini Convert is made in Taiwan.

I doubt either will ever increase in value as both knives have been in made in large volume. That being said....collect whatever you want. :)
 
Daggerman,

No need to leave, read and look at the traditional subforum, and you will see what BF refers to as traditional slipjoint (non locking) knives. Lockbacks such as Buck 110-112 may also fall into the category of traditional, but the jury is still out there. All is well, no need to get offended. What you are referring to are modern folders. It may seem like a traditional knife to you, and that is valid, but the global paradigm says those are modern.

Learn a little, laugh a little, and grow another layer of skin. You will need it to enter into the Whine and Cheese forum. Welcome aboard friend.
 
I can't speak for the Gerber since I don't own one, but I do have a Scallion and I've EDC'ed it for a few months.

It's not exactly what I would consider as collectable, unless you're trying to get every flavor made or something like that. It is, however a very good carry knife.

It's small enough to be light and convenient while having a useful blade length for a typical person. The assisted opening is fun to play with but not really all that helpful in deployment speed. I did have it come partially open in the pocket one time but it didn't cut anything. After that, I was a little nervous about it and soon moved on to a different knife. (I would carry it again but I'd probably remove the spring and convert it to a manually opening knife.) The recurved blade is a little tricky to sharpen unless you have a sharpening system that can account for it.

I've only owned one Gerber brand folder and it was not a very good experience. I threw it away instead of giving it away as I didn't think it was worthy of any one I knew.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Everybody relax. The thread isn't in Traditional any more, but that doesn't mean you have to become less friendly. :)

"Where you sit determines what you see." To someone relatively new to knives, any good or classic design may seem collectible or a tradition in their circle. We can explain our terminology to them without condescension.
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Fair enough...let me rephrase my earlier post.

I agree with what morrowj just stated. Whlle any object can be collected, due to their large production runs, I believe neither of the knives you mentioned will ever become "collectibles." If that is your intent, daggerman, I feel it might not be worth the time and effort. You would be better off using those knives.

"Traditional" is a vary vague term in the knife world, but the "Platonic" traditional folding knife would be a two-hand opening slipjoint with natural scales. Though, some "traditional" folders have locks, one handed opening capabilities, and/or man made scales. Some feel that any of those attributes makes the knife less traditional.
 
marcinek said:
(1) The Applegate is, in no way, a traditional folder. Its quintessentially tactical. Exact opposite of traditional.

(2) You lied about that being your last post. :)

(3) Honestly, they are both mass production folders and socking them away somewhere because of their "collectibility" seems kind of pointless. Its not like they are going to go up in value. Just my opinion.
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dsmegst said:
I can't speak for the Gerber since I don't own one, but I do have a Scallion and I've EDC'ed it for a few months.

It's not exactly what I would consider as collectable, unless you're trying to get every flavor made or something like that. It is, however a very good carry knife.

It's small enough to be light and convenient while having a useful blade length for a typical person. The assisted opening is fun to play with but not really all that helpful in deployment speed. I did have it come partially open in the pocket one time but it didn't cut anything. After that, I was a little nervous about it and soon moved on to a different knife. (I would carry it again but I'd probably remove the spring and convert it to a manually opening knife.) The recurved blade is a little tricky to sharpen unless you have a sharpening system that can account for it.

I've only owned one Gerber brand folder and it was not a very good experience. I threw it away instead of giving it away as I didn't think it was worthy of any one I knew.
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I don't mean collectible as in value, collectible as in one of the few kershaw knives I have. I don't own many kershaws, but I guess I would EDC it for a little.
 
morrowj_98 said:
The Kershaw Scallion is made in the USA however the Gerber Mini Convert is made in Taiwan.

I doubt either will ever increase in value as both knives have been in made in large volume. That being said....collect whatever you want. :)
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Thanks, according to various sites the gerber mini covert is made in the USA, I guess they lied :)
 
I have the Gerber Mini-Covert combo-edge and used it for a few months of EDC.
The fit and finish is decent and the blade was sharp.
Good thumb studs.

Liner locks up fine still unless you grip it pretty hard and make it torque sideways when cutting cardboard, which in this case the liner travels to the very right of the tang.

Edge retention is not too bad and the tip simply rolled its edge when it struck a ceramic tile, and the tip didn't break. :)

The bead-blasted blade seems to hide scratches relatively well when viewed from a distance, which is a good thing to me.
 
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