Kershaw Titanium Junkyard Dog II

I tested edge retention on this knife and got results below average actually below regular JYDII with Sandvic, same for Fallkniven SGPS steel which is same as SG2 as I understand. ZDP189 is way way better in edge retention.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
I tested edge retention on this knife and got results below average actually below regular JYDII with Sandvic, same for Fallkniven SGPS steel which is same as SG2 as I understand. ZDP189 is way way better in edge retention.

Thanks, Vassili.
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I don't know what to make of that statement except that you should never just automatically assume from one knife that anything is the way it is. I tested the SG2 Blur and found it to be outrageously great at holding a keen edge in all kinds of mediums from cardboard to used carpet remnants. I'm sure your results were as you say but mine were nothing like that.

I can't say I"ve put this JYDII to any kind of test but noted it was a lot thinner at the edge and primary grind both than the Blurs I tested.


STR
 
Below are my Ti-framed knives. L-R BM 630 Skirmish, BM 760BKLti, BM 635BK Mini Skirmish, Kershaw Ti/SG-2 JYDII, and Buck 560 XLT. The Skirmish is huge - the JYDII is no slouch, size-wise.

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Yeah, the CB JYDII in fuselage pattern grey G10 is my 'user' JYDII - that SG-2 is almost too sharp! It actually seems as though it's blade is thinner than the CB's, too.

Stainz
 
STR said:
I don't know what to make of that statement except that you should never just automatically assume from one knife that anything is the way it is. I tested the SG2 Blur and found it to be outrageously great at holding a keen edge in all kinds of mediums from cardboard to used carpet remnants. I'm sure your results were as you say but mine were nothing like that.

I can't say I"ve put this JYDII to any kind of test but noted it was a lot thinner at the edge and primary grind both than the Blurs I tested.


STR
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I cut 1/2" manila rope 400 times and measure sharpnes during this process. SG2 show poor result, same for SGPS from Fallkniven, same result BLUNTRUTH4U has with his SGPS on cardboard.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BLUNTRUTH4U#p/u/32/V2e6CvepPas

As well several bldeforum members reported that this steel from Takefu did not perform very well not better then AUS-8.

So I am pretty confident about this steel poor performance.

Can you provide any details on your testing?

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Shuns use Sg2, my JYD uses Sg2, and the Blur is offered in Sg2, and people obviously like the steel. My JYD may not excel in the "cut 1000 manilla rope strands" test but it passes the ABA EDC test: it holds an edge forever and takes a razor edge, and I don't have to sharpen I near as often as my other knives for the same EDC tasks, so I believe it's a great steel and I would love to have more knives offered in it as I would be happy to buy them.
 
A_Blade_Afficionado said:
Shuns use Sg2, my JYD uses Sg2, and the Blur is offered in Sg2, and people obviously like the steel. My JYD may not excel in the "cut 1000 manilla rope strands" test but it passes the ABA EDC test: it holds an edge forever and takes a razor edge, and I don't have to sharpen I near as often as my other knives for the same EDC tasks, so I believe it's a great steel and I would love to have more knives offered in it as I would be happy to buy them.
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Before formal manila rope test I tryed to use it around on the projects and was disappointed as well, however EDc it does not really formal test. it has great slicing ability but not for long unfortunately.

I am really like to see what testing STR talking about.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
SG2 is uber steel in my book. Crazy crazy sharp stuff, and tough in my experience.
 
In my uses with my Kershaws: Sg2< CPM-D2< S60V< CPM154< Sandvik
Sg2 is an amazing steel in my book, and regardless of what tests say, I think it's a heck of a steel.
If you need somebody to relieve you of your Sg2 JYD, I'm sure I could help. :D I'd hate to have you disappointed with your knife.
 
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It was a review of the Blur on the review forum probably upwards of two years ago. Very long review really and although not formal I did run it through quite a few mediums. Overall I found the edge holding to be on par with other so called super steels I've used. It kept going when others were dulled down. It may be that it just does better if its a bit thicker. Maybe the thinner edge weakens it I really don't know. I know this much though, although I've not really tested my JYDII in this steel I have used it and I've never once had to sharpen it since buying it. I'm still using it with the edge I first put on it when it arrived here.

Testing is very subjective. For that matter the opinion of what is good or bad is very subjective also. Some taint their view by how they feel about the company that made it or the maker. I can think of one very popular tester that did this yet favored other companies knives. As for SG2 not being better than AUS8.. Personally I've never had a single problem with AUS6 or 8 though and like both and feel they perform quite well. One of my most used blades is an old Cold Steel AUS6 blade. People cut these steels down unjustly in my opinion because they are really very clean steels and quite capable if heat treated correctly. AUS6 is a tough steel as well. Some of the Cold Steel blades I've used in this steel have been very good performers.

STR
 
Steve, thanks for the heads up on those spacers. I need to snag some.

I love my Ti SG2 but I absolutely hate the clip. I have some fuzzy edge beads I need to send to U812 for some lanyard work... then place an order with rgryder for a nice little slip case for the front pocket, so, I can just carry loose in the front pocket in the sheath, tip up.

The others are right about the resale value. Get one, if you don't like it.... sell it. It will probably sell pretty quickly for what you have in it, so long as you don't get ripped to start off with ;)
 
I do not know about any tests but of all my knives the SG2 JYD is a scalpel. It cuts like a laser beam. It is not however the knife I would take into a survival situation.
 
mr2blue said:
I do not know about any tests but of all my knives the SG2 JYD is a scalpel. It cuts like a laser beam. It is not however the knife I would take into a survival situation.
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Yes there are numerous testimonies to the merits of the little U2 folder in this steel. When cutting some mediums its easy to make the mistake that just because it is harder to push through means its dull or that this equates to poor performance but it could be more related to the angle of the edge, particularly if its still factory. On my JYDII for example the slicing ease is much more noticed in hardwood where it does not take near the effort it did with the much more obtuse Blur model in the same steel. Edge and primary grind geometry can make a big difference too and if one had a very well done AUS8 blade its very easy to see how one could think the steel is better over a poorly done SG2 blade when really it was just a better job grinding one over the other that was the real factor. Additionally, Cliff Stamp thoroughly tested this SG steel against AUS8 and his results differ markedly from yours Noz so I find myself asking who do we believe here? I agree that while I have not put my JYD II through the same level of cutting trials as the Blur model I do find that it has held a great edge needing very little in the way of maintenance at all over the time I've owned it and I've had this one since Nov. of 07. From Nov of 07 to now I bet it has not been swiped on a sharpmaker rod more than three times so to me that seems to be on par with a great steel. Its not like I don't use it.

Just looking at the edge profile of the JYDII I have here in SG2 I can see that push cutting with it should be a dream compared to push cutting the Blur and having just tried push cutting it through a double thick para cord on my chopping block it didn't take much at all to cleanly snip off the melted ends at all with it. This isn't really so much a test of the sharpness so much as it is the edge angle to me and there is very little resistance with this folder. The one draw back I do see however is that the folder is thin and the folder design does put a 'horn' right up where one tends to want to place their thumb for push cutting. I've noted more than once that thin knives can be very uncomfortable and discomfort can often times be enough to make someone think the blade is performing bad too when it may not be so bad after all if the knife was more comfortable to use. This can really be a factor for long term cutting. I know of one other review of the U2 and in that it was compared to a Cold Steel Voyager in AUS8. In every test the U2 outperformed the Voyager.

STR
 
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For those of you that have attempted to order the stand offs I listed below this is a post to alert you to something that just came to my attention.

The information listed in the Jantz Catalog # 45 on page 35 bottom left for SO301 Designer stand offs has the listing for this item as: .196 x .157 in length with a .092 hole size in the middle. This information is also reflected in my receipt for when I purchased these items and this is what I received when I ordered them using that order number.

Apparently Jantz has listed just the opposite information on their web page and I did check this and indeed both the smooth and the designer listings are opposite of what is in the catalog. I have called Jantz to alert them to this discrepancy and they assure me that they are correcting the error.

If you used the information to order the size I specified and received the wrong item please let them know so they can make this up to you. It appears the web site is the incorrect information. I hope that this is fixed by the time you read this so the new info should be current here shortly.
They said they are going to do it right now when I got off the phone with them.
Just FYI

STR
 
STR, I recently bought an Sg2 JYD (second one) from a guy who had a low rise clip made by you for it. Let me tell you, I LOVE the clip and it makes a huge difference in riding in the pocket. It disappears.
Just thought I'd throw it out there since I used to think a low rise clip would be horrible to draw but I am converted now to low rise clips. :D
 
A_Blade_Afficionado said:
STR, I recently bought an Sg2 JYD (second one) from a guy who had a low rise clip made by you for it. Let me tell you, I LOVE the clip and it makes a huge difference in riding in the pocket. It disappears.
Just thought I'd throw it out there since I used to think a low rise clip would be horrible to draw but I am converted now to low rise clips. :D
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STR whipped one up for me as well. I personally wish all my knifes were low ride. I don't understand the people that say it slows the draw. I think their pants must be too tight. :D
 
I wish all mine were too. Before I loved the knife and the clip, though I liked it I know other people thought it was mall ninja, now with the new clip, it's no longer laughed at by other people.
It's the perfect knife. One day I will have it tapped for tip up and it will be even more perfect. One day I will also have a Pro Series, but I like Sg2 better than CPM154 so I think I would actually prefer my JYD to the Pro series! Only time will tell.
 
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