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Although Thomas is not longer posting, He did say that he would be peeking in every once in a while.

SO... I really really dig my ZDP Leek. I cant get over how thin and light it is.
yes, it isnt no sebenza, but the sebbie isnt THIS thin and sexy.

and with the complaints on both ends of how hard it is to work and use ZDP,
and the fact that this was explicitly limited production. Im not likely to get another one.

but the fact still remains. I want another Titanium leek!

now i know its hard to roll "titanium" off your tongue withought tagging on a super steel at the end. but i wouldnt mind if it came in a more common steel.

say ats-34 or aus-8
it would make it easier to produce and and take a couple of beans off the price tag.

what do the rest of you think?
 
VG10 would be good. They don't really use it that often, I think maybe as the core of the nakamura, I can't recall....but a nice steel that's not exotic...
 
Why not US made CPM S90V. Microthech already using it for SOCOM Elite. This super high vanadium and super high carbon will be just right for next titanium Leek.

It will be nice to see Thomas back here.

Thanks, Vassili.

I prefer ATS34 or CM 154 or CPM 154 over VG10, for some reson it does not impress me at all. Or better BG42.
 
I'd love to see a Titanium leek in ATS34 / 154CM / CPM154CM that was 20% larger than a standard leek. That would mean:

Blade Length: 3.6" (9.0cm)
Blade Steel: CPM-154CM Stainless Steel
Overall Length: 8.4" (Open)
Closed Length: 4.8" (10.3cm)
Handle Material: Titanium
Lock Type: Framelock
Weight: 2.75oz

I think that would be just about the best knife out there. Large enough to be fullsize, but still thin and light enough not to be an issue in pocket. Great steel, great handles, everything.

If I could choose between a larger leek and a sebenza/buck-mayo/bradley-alias, I'd choose the leek.

I want one.
 
Hey Mac! I think a Leek 20% would be a great idea, but I wouldn't count on it. Although Kershaw does make two sizes of the Storm, the Vapor, the Cyclone, and with the JYD. A 3.6"-3.75" Leek with the same EXACT proportions might be kinda cool. Have you ever considered the Storm II ? The Kershaw site lists it as 5.8 ounces, but its not that heavy.
 
nygiantsfan3342 said:
Hey Mac! I think a Leek 20% would be a great idea, but I wouldn't count on it. Although Kershaw does make two sizes of the Storm, the Vapor, the Cyclone, and with the JYD. A 3.6"-3.75" Leek with the same EXACT proportions might be kinda cool. Have you ever considered the Storm II ? The Kershaw site lists it as 5.8 ounces, but its not that heavy.
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The stormII is about the same dimensions as the large cyclone, and I think I prefer the cyclone's bladeshape. I just really like the proportions of the leek and think that it's a great design. It would be nice to see it in that size though.
 
I'd love to see a Titanium leek in ATS34 / 154CM / CPM154CM that was 20% larger than a standard leek.
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So would I, including the slightly thicker blade stock.
 
the_mac said:
I'd love to see a Titanium leek in ATS34 / 154CM / CPM154CM that was 20% larger than a standard leek.
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wow thats a neat idea.

i actually love the current size of the leek, but i would definately try a bigger one.

mabey even mess with the lines a little so they can designate it its own name.
... the "shallot" mabye:rolleyes: dosent really fit the motiff i know.:barf: :p
 
Quite frankly, it doesn't have to be super this or super that for me. Kershaw has so many nice designs, if they would reduce their use of 420J and replace it with a "mid-range" steel like Aus-8 or even better VG-10, I would be happy enough. Thankfully, they are moving in the right direction. I must say, being mainly a Spyderco customer, that Kershaw seems to be the only company that is currently closing the gap and gaining ground as far as their models are concerned (can't speak about sales), and they do it with integrity. They are definitely my number 2 production folder company with the third place being a LONG way off. :thumbup:
 
The Leek is nice knife. I never took to mine though and ended up selling it. Did love that blade though and I did like it more than the Sebbie I had. It certainly got carried more. I would love to see a Sebbie in a Wharncliff style of blade with a much thinner profile but for me that is not the only deal. For some reason the small Sebenza is just a tad small for me and the large a bit too large. If there were a happy medium I may have found heaven but as it is just didn't sit well with my hands. It is a beauty though in every respect. It was a bit similar with the Leek. Needed just a bit more handle for my pinky to be happy.

STR
 
HoB said:
Quite frankly, it doesn't have to be super this or super that for me. Kershaw has so many nice designs, if they would reduce their use of 420J and replace it with a "mid-range" steel like Aus-8 or even better VG-10, I would be happy enough. :
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Kershaw only uses 420HC (not J) in their scallions and chives. And they are using a lot of Sandvik 13C26 right now, which is much better than 420 and 440A. And I think the Groove that is coming out soon will make MAC happy. I know I can't wait! Check it out!
 
Do you know about ZDP-189 Cyclone which we discussed a lot several monthes ago and Thomas even sad that he has prototype or something?

It was about G10 liner versus Titanium framelock but Cyclone with ZDP-189 blade.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I love my ZDP Leek. Its my EDC....however, I dont use it for anything other than cutting....But I would love to see more titanium handles with different blade options.
 
nozh2002 said:
Do you know about ZDP-189 Cyclone which we discussed a lot several monthes ago and Thomas even sad that he has prototype or something?

It was about G10 liner versus Titanium framelock but Cyclone with ZDP-189 blade.

Thanks, Vassili.
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Kershaw is still modifying the ZDP Cyclone Prototype. With all the controversy surrounding the ZDP Leek, Kershaw is going to take their time with the ZDP in the Cyclone Blade.

I want to rush them, but I am really looking forward to the ZDP Cyclone. I just bought the Tungsten Coated Large Cyclone and look forward to the ZDP one because it will be lighter!
 
nozh2002 said:
Do you know about ZDP-189 Cyclone which we discussed a lot several monthes ago and Thomas even sad that he has prototype or something?

It was about G10 liner versus Titanium framelock but Cyclone with ZDP-189 blade.

Thanks, Vassili.
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yea, i wasnt all that interested in the cyclone after a while. kinda big and bulky for my taste in these materials. (except for g10)

i think the current versions of the cyclone are great for work knives. unfortuanely i have enough work knives.
 
nygiantsfan3342 said:
...With all the controversy surrounding the ZDP Leek, Kershaw is going to take their time with the ZDP in the Cyclone Blade...
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What controversy? Are you saying that because somebody missuse Leek and break tip, we will not have Cyclone ZDP?

Well can easy break tips on any knife with any steel - does it mean that manufacturer should stop using this steel!

This is nonsence! Because of one whoes expectation was too high Kershaw will stop using ZDP?

Common! I was stupid enogh several years ago and tryed to cut glass with my 710 M2 knife! The edge was ruined, of course, but I have enough common sence not to start complaining here about my lost hopes etc... I just restore edge.

Also few years ago I stub in the hard wood custom Buck 110 with BG42 and broke 0.5 mm of tip - so what! I did not post about this until now, complaining about something like - "terrible britelness unacceptable for real working knives" etc...

This is just terrible if few posts and threads can stop good knife company from making good knives. Check W&H - all their knives ZDP-189 now. I guess it is not to easy to stop them with few negative posts here.

I am saying - Leek is best knive out there. W&H has something like this but for astronomica price. Only recently Microtech released SOCOM Elite with CPM S90V which may compete ZLeek again twice expensive with (I'll post some pictures when upload them on my server).

Thanks, Vassili.

P.S. Only real controversy I saw was bad joke about Thomas being CEO (CTO? CFO? whatever) of Kershaw or something, and I afraid that this is real reason why we do not see Thomas here anymore...
 
nozh2002 said:
P.S. Only real controversy I saw was bad joke about Thomas being CEO (CTO? CFO? whatever) of Kershaw or something, and I afraid that this is real reason why we do not see Thomas here anymore...
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If you knew Thomas, you would KNOW that is not the reason why he does not post here anymore.

Call it the rule of diminishing returns, where the harder you work, the less that you are appreciated. THAT was why Thomas stopped posting here, and some other reasons which will be left unwritten.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
Call it the rule of diminishing returns, where the harder you work, the less that you are appreciated.
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Unfortunately I am perfectly aware that more successful you are, more dangerous you are for somebody who is less successful but stiil more powerful, in result you will get for your success not a revard but most likely punishment...

This happens again and again and again, everywhere...

Too bad I thought Kershaw is on the rise... Well at least I got ZDP Leek...

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
What controversy? Are you saying that because somebody missuse Leek and break tip, we will not have Cyclone ZDP?

Well can easy break tips on any knife with any steel - does it mean that manufacturer should stop using this steel!

This is nonsence! Because of one whoes expectation was too high Kershaw will stop using ZDP?

Common! I was stupid enogh several years ago and tryed to cut glass with my 710 M2 knife! The edge was ruined, of course, but I have enough common sence not to start complaining here about my lost hopes etc... I just restore edge.

Also few years ago I stub in the hard wood custom Buck 110 with BG42 and broke 0.5 mm of tip - so what! I did not post about this until now, complaining about something like - "terrible britelness unacceptable for real working knives" etc...

This is just terrible if few posts and threads can stop good knife company from making good knives. Check W&H - all their knives ZDP-189 now. I guess it is not to easy to stop them with few negative posts here.

I am saying - Leek is best knive out there. W&H has something like this but for astronomica price. Only recently Microtech released SOCOM Elite with CPM S90V which may compete ZLeek again twice expensive with (I'll post some pictures when upload them on my server).

Thanks, Vassili.

P.S. Only real controversy I saw was bad joke about Thomas being CEO (CTO? CFO? whatever) of Kershaw or something, and I afraid that this is real reason why we do not see Thomas here anymore...
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Wow! Kind of an overreaction Vassili. All I meant by controversy was that the ZDP Leek was disappointing the people who expected an unbreakable knife. I never implied or stated that the ZDP Leek was a subpar knife or that the ZDP Cyclone was cancelled. I agree that the Leek is one of the best knives produced. If you see any of my previous posts/threads, you see that.

Kershaw is going to make more knives with ZDP, but they are going to make them RIGHT!
 
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