Keyring Folders: The Last Resort.

[Blake the Blade]

If you guys want to start a new topic about vintage tool knives, I may have a few. I'm not sure how much discussion you'll find in the traditional section. You might get more discussion in the multi-tool section but I would be interested either way. Let's not make things complicated for the moderators though. I think Frank and Gary are doing an excellent job.

I'd certainly be interested in a thread on vintage tool knives Jake, but have no examples. Don't suppose you could be persuaded could you? :thumbup:

 

[supratentorial]

I'd certainly be interested in a thread on vintage tool knives Jake, but have no examples. Don't suppose you could be persuaded could you? :thumbup:

I posted some vintage advertisements and such in the multi-tool section: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ld-carry-(in-1909)-and-vintage-multi-tool-ads

I'm happy to follow a lead if there's a particular subject of interest. Most of my old tool knives aren't really keyring knives though some do have a bail.

 

[Blake the Blade]

I posted some vintage advertisements and such in the multi-tool section: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ld-carry-(in-1909)-and-vintage-multi-tool-ads

I'm happy to follow a lead if there's a particular subject of interest. Most of my old tool knives aren't really keyring knives though some do have a bail.

Don't suppose you've got any of them old coachman's knives have you. They had a large array of tools. Saw one once (huge great thing) had an attachment that enabled the hole thing to function as the handle to the coach door itself. Love to see some examples of those.

 

[supratentorial]

Sportsman knives are something that I never collected... also never collected scout knives. I do enjoy them though.

There have been some beautiful sportsman knives posted by others in the traditional subforum and in BRL's subforum. You might look through the Sheffield knives thread. Also, the Sheffield Exhibition knives book is definitely worth finding if you don't already have a copy. The knives in that book are too expensive for a mere mortal like myself to buy but I have auction catalogs with some of those knives listed.

And Ken Erickson, one of my favorite custom knife makers, has made some beautiful custom sportsman's knives such as these
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...3-thick-Sportsman-s-knife-Ken-Erickson/page10

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...on-large-sportsman-s-knife-Sheffield-inspired

And here's one of Ken's horseman knives

I have been working on a horseman's knife for Blade Show this June and thought I would post a couple of pictures here and a link to traditional sub-forum with more information and pictures. Thanks for looking and any comments more than welcome.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/934720-Horseman-s-knife

 

[Blake the Blade]

Thanks Jake. I'm going to look into this area or traditional knife production with great interest. Thanks for the leads and those beautiful examples. Much appreciated. :thumbup:

 

[knarfeng]

I don't really see this as a hard call to make.

Tim Leatherman started his company in 1983. Prior to that the Leatherman style pocket tool, which splits open to reveal all sorts of assorted tools, did not exist. They certainly have enough patents that the government thinks they are new.
https://www.leatherman.com/our-story.html
https://www.leatherman.com/patents.html

The standard SAK is a lobster design. Lobster designs have existed since something like the mid 1500's. SAK's themselves date from 1891, when the company which became Victorinox first delivered a shipment of knives to the Swiss Army.
https://www.swissarmy.com/us/app/content/history_page

Now I own a couple of pocket tools. And I carry a Micra all the time. But I don't post about them in Traditional. As the SNL-Bush line goes, "Wouldn't be prudent."

 

[supratentorial]

I don't really see this as a hard call to make.

Tim Leatherman started his company in 1983. Prior to that the Leatherman style pocket tool, which splits open to reveal all sorts of assorted tools, did not exist. They certainly have enough patents that the government thinks they are new.
https://www.leatherman.com/our-story.html
https://www.leatherman.com/patents.html

The standard SAK is a lobster design. Lobster designs have existed since something like the mid 1500's. SAK's themselves date from 1891, when the company which became Victorinox first delivered a shipment of knives to the Swiss Army.
https://www.swissarmy.com/us/app/content/history_page

Now I own a couple of pocket tools. And I carry a Micra all the time. But I don't post about them in Traditional. As the SNL-Bush line goes, "Wouldn't be prudent."

Frank, I think it's the right call and I don't want to add fuel to the fire but there are examples that predate Leatherman. I own a few examples. One in particular that comes to mind was patented in Germany IIRC. It took some digging to find that patent and I'm not sure if it was also patented in the USA. BRL asked me for a copy of the patent recently but didn't say why.

Anywhoo... there's a whole section of Bladeforums dedicated to the discussion of

Multi-tools & Multi-purpose Knives
Discuss all aspects of Multi-Tools, Swiss Army style knives, & related equipment.

 

[matt009au]

My daily carry from Joe Allen, great knife.

 

[jackknife]

My daily carry from Joe Allen, great knife.

Whoa, Matt! That is a little sweetheart of a knife!!!!

Is it about the size of a peanut?

 

[supratentorial]

My daily carry from Joe Allen, great knife.

That's awesome!!

Whoa, Matt! That is a little sweetheart of a knife!!!!

Is it about the size of a peanut?

could be a "beer nut"

 

[matt009au]

Whoa, Matt! That is a little sweetheart of a knife!!!!

Is it about the size of a peanut?

Yeh Joe did a great job. I think he based it on a case peanut (edit: actually an Ulster peanut) but added a bit at the back for the keyring to go through. The handle is around 8cm (apologies not sure on my imperial measurements) long including the bit out the back.

Edit, tried to reference the pics when it was new (refer post 19 of the 'Joe Allen Knives' thread http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1171294-Joe-Allen-Knives ) but not sure how to do it on my phone. Suprised me how much the stag has smoothed over a year of pocket time.

 

[pertinux]

My daily carry from Joe Allen, great knife.

Yeh Joe did a great job. I think he based it on a case peanut (edit: actually an Ulster peanut) but added a bit at the back for the keyring to go through. The handle is around 8cm (apologies not sure on my imperial measurements) long including the bit out the back.

Edit, tried to reference the pics when it was new (refer post 19 of the 'Joe Allen Knives' thread http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1171294-Joe-Allen-Knives ) but not sure how to do it on my phone. Suprised me how much the stag has smoothed over a year of pocket time.

Here you go:

Hi Brothers & Sisters of the Blade: Here is a first for me, Its a Peanut sized knife (Ulster Pattern ) with a key chain attachment an screw driver with bottle opener in ATS-34 steel. It has real Stag an is for an Australian Customer. Thought you might enjoy looking it over. Of course I had to add the key chain attachment an make up a can opener pattern from an old fish knife pattern I had -then down size it to fit this small knife, lots of work in this little guy. Has a lighter snap in all three flush positions, I opened a bottle of Pepsi so opener works fine. Blade is 59 rockwell hardness an can opener is around 55-56. Springs are 50 rc.

Very (very) cool little piece. Thanks for showing it to us here!

~ P.