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Khukuri and rifle combonation for home steading

Dec 15, 2000
I was wondering if any one had any thoughts on this subject? I have went with a WWII 18"
because its a excellent tool and a weapon.My
rifle was selected along the same lines.I was
very luckey to get a Turkish Mauser 8mm bolt action for 50 dollars,it was in very good condtion and shoots great! The 8mm is I feel
a good round to shoot out to 300 yards(drops
about 24" when sighted in at 150 yards)its a
easy round to find cartdriges for also.The
rifle its self is super tough,does not jamb,
and is a claw action,the exactor holds the
round by the rim during the cycling.It also
comes with a bayonett all in all a good piece
for deer hunting or self defence,very much like a khukuri.This rifle may have seen combat with Gorkhas as its a WWII (1936)
Turkish weapon, its strange to think that good men from both sides may have fought and died with these weapons on some lost ridge all these years ago.
While maybe someone in Nepal might have used this rifle, or even a Gorkha, I think more likely he used some Mark** of the British SMLE Engfield. Also, the 8mm round is not as common, at least in the US, as the 30/06 or the 30/30 or even the 308 Winchester. However, whatever you prefer, as long as you practice, know your rifle and cartridge, and keep enough ammo around for contingincies.

Personally, when I run around in the bush for fun and non-profit, I usually carry a single shot rifle in .22 LR, and my 15 inch Chainpure.

I do like Mausers, though.

It is hard to beat any of the surplus military rifles in any battle caliber for the money and usability as secondary, or spare, or vehicle guns.

I see them being more akin to the villagers rather than the HI's, though. Not for a first choice, but as a "...didn't really believe I'd ever need this, but worth ten times what I paid to have it here when I need it" gun. A Mosin-Nagant, MkIV Enfield, or Mauser along with a Savage 22/20 ga. combo gun would cover you well.

[This message has been edited by Rusty (edited 12-28-2000).]
I have all I need with a SMLE, a Ruger 10/.22, a Mossberg 500 12 Ga., A Marlin .357 Mag carbine and a ruger Security Six in .357 Mag.
Still gotta get my pistol for CCW though. I still like that little 640-1 .357 Mag and it will probably be the one.

Khukuris ain't a problem, but my grab & get khukuri will be my YCS.

No one can ever have enough guns, khukuris,'Hawks and other knives imo.


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I like some of the choices above, but if we're talking tough military rifles, I'd have to vote for the M1 Garand in 30-06. It will fire wet, muddy, with grit in the action and is solid enough to smash em on the head when its out of bullets! For khuks I'd choose a 15" Chiruwa AK(I've never held an 18" WWII though..). For pistols: Beretta 92fs 9mm, Glock 27(backup), S+W 629 classic w/6"barrel in .44 mag for longer ranges. I must 2nd Yvsa's sentiment "you can never have enough Khuks, guns" etc........

I agree with MauiRob and Patton about the "best Damn battle rifle ever conceived". However, unless you're at least 5'8", or a Gorkha, humping one isn't very pleasant. Something else in the same cartridge?

OK, I'm a gun person. What I know about khukuris, I learned on this list. Of the ones I own, the one that I pick up the most when something needs to be cut is my $49 15" Villager with wood handle. It does the job and I don't worry about hurting it. Now that Yvsa has sharpened my 19" Gelbu Special I will have to give it a try (if the ice ever ends).

Rifles: how much do you want to spend? How hard do you want to hit? How accurate does it need to be? Etc. Etc. Lots of choices including what "feels right" to you.

Most US military veterans of recent vintage have a soft spot for the civilian version of the M-16, the AR-15. In some ways it is the most versatile rifle you can own. BATF considers the lower receiver to "be the gun." Therefore you can buy one lower receiver (or one complete gun) from a dealer and then everything else can be ordered by phone or internet and delivered to your house (unless you live in one of the cursed states like the People's Republic of California or Mass). The standard rifle is .223 of course. It is easy to make up an upper receiver for .17 Remington which is a super mid range coyote gun. You can also make an upper that will happily shoot .22 LR all day long. With no real modifications you can set up an upper for the AK caliber of 7.62 X 39. I don't have the bookmark to the company on my home Mac but there is company out there that specializes in heavy caliber conversions for the AR. You can get ready to shoot uppers in .440 Corbon, .44 Magnum or even .50 AE. Big time deer or wild pig thumper. You can even get a single shot upper that converts your AR over to .50 BMG. That's the largest civilian legal cartridge you can own. Here's their URL: http://www.watsonsweapons.com/ Click on "Products."

The AR can be very accuate. I've fired some custom jobs that would happily keep five shots inside one half inch at 100 meters. Those would be long heavy barrels though. One of the joys of the AR is how light and short you can make it. Put a 16" barrel on and a collapsible stock (if it is a pre-ban model) and you have a short light rifle in .223 that you can carry all day. Go get one. Do it today. Mr. Versatility.

The FN/FAL is sweet as well. There is a good web site where you can learn: www.fnfal.com . The message board link is at the bottom. You can build your own from parts for $600-$850 or you can buy the best ready to go from DS Arms: http://www.dsarms.com/

Inexpensive bolt action military rifles: how nice. First go get your Curio and Relic FFL for $30. You can then buy anything made before 1950 and have it mailed directly to your home. No paying dealer markup. I've got a Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine in .303 British but I wouldn't really recommend it. You would be better off listening to these people: http://forums.ar15.com/Forum3/HTML/027805.html

I'm a big Swedish Mauser fan. I'm an even bigger fan of their cartridge: 6.55 X 55mm. It is everything a round should be. Plenty for deer, flat shooting, extremely accurate, easy to find components to reload.

8mm is ok but you need to find imported ammo. The American loaded stuff is anemic at best. Go to a gun show and look on the ammo tables, you'll find some import stuff.

Almost forgot the Garand! How could I do that with a really nice Springfield Armory model hanging on the wall about 25 feet from me? I like them. They are easy to learn to shoot well. The semi-auto action takes some of the sting out of 30/06 recoil. I actually like the little 8 round enbloc clips. It is nice to not spoil a rifle's lines with a large detachable clip. They are heavy. I carried mine all around my property one day looking for a coyote and after a couple hours I was happy to put it down.

Speaking of old semi's, the Hakim is a neat gun too and inexpensive. It's long and heavy but fun to learn how to operate and sweet to actually shoot.

Everybody should have an AK and a SKS. Good AK's are getting harder and harder to find. We're working on it. I bet we see a total US manufactured model soon to get around the import ban. They have decent accuracy but their appeal is really in their ruggedness. They don't care if they are full of mud, they go bang and feed the next round. The SKS is the much less expensive model that usually has a fixed ten round clip. Still 7.62X39. Actually a much better deal than the Ruger Mini 14 or 30. I see them at gun shows for less than $200.

And you need a T/C Contender carbine. And a Ruger No 1 single shot (love those rifles). I have a little Springfield Armory Scout with a .22 LR top barrel and a .410 lower barrel that is handy and tough as nails. Everybody should have at least one Remington Model 700 and one Winchester Model 70 (especially since you can now get one with the pre-64 style action). I want to get a M1A someday (civilian M-14). My most accurate rifle is a Sako single shot bolt action in .22 PPC. I can't quote group sizes here; you would have to see it yourself. Don't forget several .22's. I love my 10/22. I'm sure I have more rounds through it than anything else.

No, I won't bring everything I own to your house for you to look at!

I'm a little partial to my Browning BAR.
300 Win Mag. for "homesteading". It'll take down anything on 2 or 4 legs, is accurate and it a real kick in the pants to shoot.
A tad pricey but worth every penny.

Got a customized Ruger 10/22 that I've shot more than any other rifle. When I lived in Montana, it was the bane of all Gophers.

My old "sporterized" Springfield 03-A3 is a real classic and has taken everything from whitetail to Elk and Moose.

My Ruger Mini-30 is fun to shoot but it's usefulness IMO is limited to defense.

I also have a Swedish Mauser in 6.55 X 55. Bagged a few deer with it also. It is a "sentimental" favorite for me.

A couple of 338 mags are reserved for when I make it back to Montana or Alaska. Love my Browning Stainless A-Bolt. A real tack driver.

Got a few others but these are my faves.

I won't own a rifle that can't keep 'em all in a 2 inch group at 150 yards,(except the Mini-30, and I consider it a toy).

Now for pistols........I could go on and on, so I'll save that for another time.
I have one of those Turkish mausers too. It is a decent all around rifle. It is my goal to get a whole mess of the WWII era rifles. I really like them, especially the bolt action ones. I want to build my collction to include a Mosin/Nagant, A SMLE, a Remington bolt action, a Garand and an M1 carbine. I think I would be happy with any or all of those, but for right now I am spending all my cash on khuks.
I have a C&R and if you look on the BATF's c&r page you can find links to places like centuryarms.com which has free shipping on ammo for "surplus" firearms. At the prices offered you can't beat them. Right now you can get 70 rounds of 8mm (7.92) for less then $5 on stripper clips. Which beats the h@ll out of the mosin/negant at 20 rounds for $2.50 (I only have 5 mosin's) but you can decide what you like best for yourself

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I have several firearms, from 338 Mag to
22 Gatling guns, pistols revolvers etc.
Guns are just like Knives if you don't
know how to use them, none are going to
Help Much. Get what you like and practice
with it until you feel it is a part of you.
Now you have something. IMO

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The Turkish Mauser and 18" WWII would make a great homestead combination. I think it is even a 98 Mauser action. European ammunition manufactures such as Norma have upgrade their loads with modern powders to make the 8 mm comparable to the modern 30-06. North American manufactuers continue to download their 8 mm Mauser ammunition. I guess there are quite a few older Mausers style around. The only problem I see is getting enough non corrosive 8 mm ammunition for practice.

Did you get the bayonet?

The WWII and WWI rifles are great firearms to collect and shoot. The only problem real complaint against some of them I have is that the mimimum sight setting is around 300 yrds.

I don't want to turn this into a rifle debate but I wonder what would have happened if the USA went with the 7 mm Mauser instead of 30-06.


weatherby Mk-V! in .300 WM. spendy,and spendier still for ammo,but when you absolutely, positively gotta shoot something half a mile away...it shoots straighter than I do,off a bench even,and I shoot pretty darn straight.

I'm actually looking for a nice 10/22

SKS, best gun for the buck,or was when I got mine,they're getting up there as the supply runs out.