Khukuri as a stabbing weapon !!

Brendan

Brendan

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I have just been to the cinema to see Gangs of New York - loads of blades in the film so that made it worth while !!

I was thinking - the khukuri is perfect for slashing, hacking and cleaving but what about stabbing. Can it be done - I know the obviuos answer is yes as it has a point but the angle would probably be awkward, is it effective ?

I was also thinking if a wild animal, say a lion went for your what would the best form of defence with a khuk be. I thought and I would do one of two things (if I had the time). 1. I would turn the khuk 180 degrees around in my hand and stab up at the approaching beast. 2. I would slash overhead at it's pretty little face.
Which would be more effective taking size and weight (momentum)in to account.

B
 
With a say 20" Sirp or GS I wouldn't worry about stabbing..:eek:


Think about it for a minute..;)

Then you would have the answer you need.:D
 
Or you could use your other hand to draw a blade that's designed to be turned 180 degrees...
 
I have considered the use of a Khukuri as a stabbing weapon, and have tried it lightly into wood. The only thing preventing me from doing it more aggressively is the lack of a gaurd. Don't want to see if I can slice my fingers off:o. But I do think the khukuri would make a good, possibly great, stabbing weapon. The only thing you have to take into account is your target area and adjust your strike accordingly, since impact of the blade will be higher than the level of your fist. The one major advantage the khukuri has over other knives is wrist position for stabbing. I have been studying martial arts for a little while, and one of the things drilled into my head was wrist position on punches/strikes. I have roughly the same wrist position holding a khukuri as I do when I punch, which is the strongest wrist position for me. I cannot do this with other knives, my wrist is tilted too far forward. So I think the Khukuri can be a good stabbing weapon, just my oppinion and personal ramblings/babblings:p. So Uncle Bill, when are the Kamis going to start putting forward gaurds on the khukuris ;) :D :p

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Actually, the larger the angle the khuk is bent at, the more likely it is intended as a weapon.

Look at the 18th Century models. Look at a spike tomahawk or spontoon. Pick one up in a hammer grip, and strike at a vertical target. Funny how the hammer strike drives the more bent khuk's point straight into the target, isn't it?
 
I have always thought of Khuks as slashing, chopping weapons, not stabbing weapons.

The old neck, arm, and leg strikes can do ALOT of damage and you don't have to worry about pulling the knife back out of what you stabbed. :)
 
if long, are great for stabbing safely. But SHORT pointy things make you close with your opponent. Slashing crooked things help you keep your distance. Heavy, slashing crooked things work as hammer blows even if the edge is deflected.
 
I suppose a Bando practioner is the one most infromed in this technique? :rolleyes:

Sam
 
I agree with Logan1 and Rusty, the khuk can be used to stab - particularly the curvier ones like the M-43 and Malla. Yes, it is primarily a chopper, but a thrust is quicker, even with a heavy khuk. Chops or slashes could be used as follow-ups.

My only reservation is that khuks (at least HI khuks) are softer at the point. I've stabbed some into an old oak stump with no problems, but have never put them up against bone.

S.
 
Also, with the less curved ones, a punch often puts the tip right in line for a stab.

Besides, if it comes to that, a stab is nothing less than a slash started from the inside. You push in, then cut your way out. With the khukuri's mass and velocity, you simply reverse to cut your way in, then pull out, and you have a stab started from the outside and ending on the inside.

Except, look at the size of the wound that is inflicted by the khukuri in either stab or slash. Oh my dear God!
 
Tarzan had stunt doubles Brendan, you don't. Use the khuk on the critter however you want AFTER you've expended your ammo. I reckon anything with a point could stab if need be, but with a khuk I'd want to take advantage of whatever reach I had, and just keep swinging determinedly until I could join Bruise in the tree.

Sarge
 
I was also thinking if a wild animal, say a lion went for your what would the best form of defence with a khuk be.
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How about the other way around; if you decided to go after lion?

Acording to Howard Blackmore (Hunting Weapons - From the Middle Ages to the Twentieth Century (Dover, 2000) pg. 80

"...the kukri...is best known as a war weapon...but it was also used as a jungle and hunting knife. So confident of its powers was the Gurkha hunter that he did not hesitate to tackle a tiger single handed. The animal was first provoked into a spring. The Gurkha leapt to one side striking at the tiger's paw so it was nerely severed. When the tiger sprang again with the paw hanging helpless the Gurkha went in closer delivering a killing blow either to the back of the neck or at the throat."

n2s
 
A 20 inch Kobra would do a fine job at stabbing. You can ask Dr. Duvon Winborne about this. He's looking to come into Reno Thursday night late and leave Monday AM. Hell of a guy and one of us. He'll probably know more about khukuris in combat situations than any of us except maybe Capt. Paul and that SF guy in Stan.

Been there, done that, speaks volumes.

I killed a spider once with a 30 inch Sirupati. Dropped it on him. Yangdu gave me a lot of hell for being a poor Buddhist. Story of my life.
 
Originally posted by spence
My only reservation is that khuks (at least HI khuks) are softer at the point. I've stabbed some into an old oak stump with no problems, but have never put them up against bone.
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I was very intrigued to discover that the hamon line on one of my kobras encompassed the tip. I've etched a few different models, including one kobra. None of the others had temper lines over the tip. Maybe this is a unique characteristic of the kobra design?

P.S. Rusty & Sarge - no fair bringing guns to a knife fight! :p :D
 
Originally posted by raghorn
P.S. Rusty & Sarge - no fair bringing guns to a knife fight! :p :D
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Now you're catching on. The idea is to have a knife to "give" him afterward in case he forgot to bring his own. :D :D :D

The gun, of course, is merely to drill the pilot hole for the stab. :p :p :p

Oh, it's time for my medication again already? Have to go now. Medication make Rusty feel good!
 
If your gonna "stab" with a knife get one of those stiletto designs (kind of like a spike) or a double edge Appelgate/Fairbairn. The UBE is a possibility but most Khuks are large enough that a good chop carries a lot of force. Look at the pics from the Puja ceremony!
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
A 20 inch Kobra would do a fine job at stabbing. You can ask Dr. Duvon Winborne about this. He's looking to come into Reno Thursday night late and leave Monday AM. Hell of a guy and one of us. He'll probably know more about khukuris in combat situations than any of us except maybe Capt. Paul and that SF guy in Stan.

Been there, done that, speaks volumes.

I killed a spider once with a 30 inch Sirupati. Dropped it on him. Yangdu gave me a lot of hell for being a poor Buddhist. Story of my life.
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Uncle, you *HAVE* to get down all his material on Khuks in combat! For the benefit of us all! :D:D:D
 
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