Thanks, I'm cringing at my computer right now. It physically hurts me to think about a scope procedure like that. I'm glad my stones came out the old fashioned way. For my first stone, they gave me demerol - that's good stuff. Since I first felt the stone at 1:14 in the morning that time around (the last one was at 4:37 - not as bad), they put me in in-patient for the rest of the day. Apparently Nurse Ratchet was on the floor that day, because when she read my chart, her angry reply was "Good! Every man should have to go through this so they know what we go through to give them children!" If I wasn't flying high on demerol, I might've been a bit more worried about this nurse. She proceded to tell me about the dreaded "staghorn" stones - shaped just as you would imagine it to be, the tips of the "antlers" dig into the sides of your ureter and the thing stays there. She then described the nasty surgical procedure used to take them out.