Kill Devil vs. Rattle Hawk - primary and secondary uses?

larry44

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This isn't a "which should I buy" thread. Rather, I'm curious as to the benefits of each design. What would be the primary use of a Rattle Hawk vs. the Kill Devil? Benefits of larger sharpened and rounded edge vs. flat edge; benefit of chisel-like spike vs. sharpened spike.

Is one more/less suited for metal vs. wood? Woods vs. survival?

Is either more suited to combat?

And how would you compare the two to a Jenny Wren?

Thanks for all your wisdom!
 
The only thing I can say based on the two designs is that the rattle hawk is probably more geared towards combat, given the sharp spike and sharpened head.
 
Moved from the Busse forum to the Swamp Rat forum with a redirect left for folks to follow the link. :)
 
Primarily combat with everything else a decent secondary use at the cost of a very high risk needing stitches: Rattle Hawk
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Primarily utility with decent combat use as well: Kill Devil Sniper Hawk
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Both look cool and will work well, but one is much more dangerous to the user than the other which should be considered if it is destined for use. ;)
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The Rattle Hawk is going to make one heck of a Zombie Eradication Tool! Backup behind the 12 gauge of course. :D

Got to have a Waki in there as well, the Rucki in a close second.
 
1311 smells like a wet dog because of them rubber handles. :p Zombie's would come out of the woodwork for a nice fresh wet dog!

I'll stick with my waki thank ya. :D
 
I'm still waiting for my Ganza KDSH, with all kinds of thoughts as to what I will do for the handles since they will not have micarta.

I'll throw them for fun, cut and chop stuff with them for fun, carry them through the woods and on short camping trips for fun, and carry them bowhunting just for fun. :cool:

After all of the above and when I figure out for what all it is useful, I'll carry it for useful purposes AND for fun. :thumbup: :D
 
I mostly chop for fun and the spike/pick on the RH is great for digging in things and prying off wood staples. Chopped with the RH a few times and I love love love it, but it's my only hawk, so who says I wouldn't like the KDSH...
 
I have trained an awful lot of people on hawk use. Proper training is vital to using one. It is SIMILAR to a hatchet but not. Even if you have cut off the spike, if you had a rebound when using the blunted point, you would get a cutting edge to the head!

That is where a little bit of good training as to the use of a hawk in both combat and normal use. I teach boy scouts the tote-n-chip card. The program teaches that to swing a hatchet, you should be kneeling and swing no higher than your head. You miss, it goes into the ground- not your leg. You chop off a limb on a downed log, you cut from the other side of the log from the limb. Same thing. you miss, it don't take off your leg. This concept prevents injuries from overstrikes. That is where proper training comes in.
 
I dieing to get a Rattle hawk just to use as a thrower I imanage it stick at your target every time.
 
begreen61 said:
I dieing to get a Rattle hawk just to use as a thrower I imanage it stick at your target every time.
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Surprisingly, it is the KDSH that makes the better thrower/sticker.
Not enough points to stick the rattle hawk everytime as the rounded spots (that would normally be sharp angles) do not stay stuck very well.
The spike & beard sure do stick though.
 
AZTimT said:
Surprisingly, it is the KDSH that makes the better thrower/sticker.
Not enough points to stick the rattle hawk everytime as the rounded spots (that would normally be sharp angles) do not stay stuck very well.
The spike & beard sure do stick though.
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Is there enough space between the the handle and the beard to get that kind of a stick?? Or do you just mean the 'face'?

I can definitely see the KDSH being the better thrower for trees and such with that flare leading to a rather linear face, similar to the Norse-style... but on a living target, I'd guess that the added penetration of the RH's sharpened edges would give it the... uh... 'edge'.
 
I just think if i throw the Rattler at a attacter and hit him I dought he be geting up,slice and dice
 
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