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Kill Devil vs. Rattle Hawk - primary and secondary uses?

Discussion in 'Swamp Rat Knives' started by larry44, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. larry44


    Mar 5, 2008
    This isn't a "which should I buy" thread. Rather, I'm curious as to the benefits of each design. What would be the primary use of a Rattle Hawk vs. the Kill Devil? Benefits of larger sharpened and rounded edge vs. flat edge; benefit of chisel-like spike vs. sharpened spike.

    Is one more/less suited for metal vs. wood? Woods vs. survival?

    Is either more suited to combat?

    And how would you compare the two to a Jenny Wren?

    Thanks for all your wisdom!
  2. Translash

    Translash Doing evil things... Platinum Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    The only thing I can say based on the two designs is that the rattle hawk is probably more geared towards combat, given the sharp spike and sharpened head.
  3. Jaxx

    Jaxx Moderator Moderator

    Jan 18, 2006
    Moved from the Busse forum to the Swamp Rat forum with a redirect left for folks to follow the link. :)
  4. AZTimT

    AZTimT The Stripetition Finish Guy Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 15, 2009
    Primarily combat with everything else a decent secondary use at the cost of a very high risk needing stitches: Rattle Hawk

    Primarily utility with decent combat use as well: Kill Devil Sniper Hawk

    Both look cool and will work well, but one is much more dangerous to the user than the other which should be considered if it is destined for use. ;)
    Pics for size comparison

  5. mcinfantry


    Jun 2, 2005
    the rattle hawk already bit me.
  6. cut it out

    cut it out Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 11, 2010
    I went with the kill devil. Gonna mount it to my 4 wheeler rack
  7. leatherman

    leatherman leathermoderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 30, 2001
    The Rattle Hawk is going to make one heck of a Zombie Eradication Tool! Backup behind the 12 gauge of course. :D

    Got to have a Waki in there as well, the Rucki in a close second.
  8. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    Don't forget the 1311 there Dwayne! ;) :D
  9. leatherman

    leatherman leathermoderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 30, 2001
    1311 smells like a wet dog because of them rubber handles. :p Zombie's would come out of the woodwork for a nice fresh wet dog!

    I'll stick with my waki thank ya. :D
  10. BillyJoeBobJim


    Jun 14, 2007
    I'm still waiting for my Ganza KDSH, with all kinds of thoughts as to what I will do for the handles since they will not have micarta.

    I'll throw them for fun, cut and chop stuff with them for fun, carry them through the woods and on short camping trips for fun, and carry them bowhunting just for fun. :cool:

    After all of the above and when I figure out for what all it is useful, I'll carry it for useful purposes AND for fun. :thumbup: :D
  11. DanR217

    DanR217 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    I mostly chop for fun and the spike/pick on the RH is great for digging in things and prying off wood staples. Chopped with the RH a few times and I love love love it, but it's my only hawk, so who says I wouldn't like the KDSH...
  12. broe


    May 8, 2011
    I have trained an awful lot of people on hawk use. Proper training is vital to using one. It is SIMILAR to a hatchet but not. Even if you have cut off the spike, if you had a rebound when using the blunted point, you would get a cutting edge to the head!

    That is where a little bit of good training as to the use of a hawk in both combat and normal use. I teach boy scouts the tote-n-chip card. The program teaches that to swing a hatchet, you should be kneeling and swing no higher than your head. You miss, it goes into the ground- not your leg. You chop off a limb on a downed log, you cut from the other side of the log from the limb. Same thing. you miss, it don't take off your leg. This concept prevents injuries from overstrikes. That is where proper training comes in.
  13. begreen61

    begreen61 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 13, 2008
    I dieing to get a Rattle hawk just to use as a thrower I imanage it stick at your target every time.
  14. AZTimT

    AZTimT The Stripetition Finish Guy Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 15, 2009
    Surprisingly, it is the KDSH that makes the better thrower/sticker.
    Not enough points to stick the rattle hawk everytime as the rounded spots (that would normally be sharp angles) do not stay stuck very well.
    The spike & beard sure do stick though.
  15. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension

    Dec 2, 2008
    Is there enough space between the the handle and the beard to get that kind of a stick?? Or do you just mean the 'face'?

    I can definitely see the KDSH being the better thrower for trees and such with that flare leading to a rather linear face, similar to the Norse-style... but on a living target, I'd guess that the added penetration of the RH's sharpened edges would give it the... uh... 'edge'.
  16. begreen61

    begreen61 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 13, 2008
    I just think if i throw the Rattler at a attacter and hit him I dought he be geting up,slice and dice

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