King and Queen Killed by Prince

Whatever I can do to help I will of course. The next few days will tell, so far it's pretty calm.
I will be praying for Nepal and its people to find peace.

Jeff.

 
It is staying pretty calm and the people seem to be united in their grief.

Even though I believe personally that the world has no need or room for kings anymore and the notion that the king of Nepal is an incarnation of Vishnu makes me chuckle the fact remains the man was loved and reverred by the people. This event which has brought the people together in grief may hold them together for other reasons and if it does then something good may come out of something bad which is what I always pray for when I see something like this happen.

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May the tears shed and the blood spilled water something beautiful that will grow strong.

I'm a bit scarce, at times. Bill, please email me if there's ever an effort I can contribute to for your people in Nepal.

John
 
Put me down also for the "war chest" if it comes to it.
Bill, how much do you believe of the original story and the new Palace version?
Could Prince Dipendra have killed his sister as well as his parents? Would it have been possible for someone else to get in and kill the royal family?
 
I am in total aggreement with the other sentiments expressed here. What a tragedy. If it comes down to buying a new khuk or using that money to help the kamis out... well people are what's important. Let me know how to help. Prayers are already in motion.
 
Thanks again all for generous offers.

I feared this incident would not pass easily and it isn't. Got email from Gelbu and there is a curfew at present so he's staying in the home. Good idea. Lots of trouble on the streets. Already there are reports saying the killing due to arranged marriage is not true and, again, as I feared the Maoists are trying to take advantage of the situation. If anybody's interested you might try catmando.com and see if you can get this link to work for you.

More later. I've got to get back on the news search. I'll keep you posted on inside info I get from Gelbu.

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Things are getting worse
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(Hope this works) From the CNN website:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/south/06/04/nepalshooting02/index.html

"KATHMANDU, Nepal -- The Nepalese government has declared a curfew in the capital Kathmandu as angry mourners demand an
explanation to Friday's massacre that left nine royals dead.
Security forces have been given orders to shoot troublemakers on sight, CNN's Kasra Naji reports.

Police fired tear gas as crowds filled the capital and snarled traffic. At least four people were slightly injured when they were hit by tear gas shells, hospital doctors said.

Prince Gyanendra, brother to slain King Birendra, took the throne Monday just
hours after royal heir and murder suspect Prince Dipendra died.

Dipendra reportedly shot dead family members over a dispute on his choice of bride and a plan to return the country to monarchial rule, before turning the gun on himself.

Thousands lined the path of a somber royal
procession as King Gyanendra, who was earlier
named caretaker king while Dipendra lay in a
coma, rode in a horse-drawn carriage.

He proceeded from one palace, where he was
enthroned, to another that will be his official residence -- the scene of the killings that left this impoverished Himalayan nation stunned and searching for answers.

Many refused to believe that Crown Prince
Dipendra -- technically king for a weekend -- had killed his family and then himself, as officials privately say.

Others were incredulous at new King Gyanendra's assertion that the deaths were a freak "accident." [snip]


Massacre remains a puzzle

But the debate continues to rage in Nepal over the varying accounts of what happened in the royal dining room, as the government remains tight-lipped over the circumstances surrounding the massacre.

"According to the information received by us [they] were seriously injured in an
accidental firing from an automatic weapon," Gyanendra is quoted as saying in a
statement broadcast on state radio Sunday.

Gyanendra's statement did not make clear
who was holding the gun at the time of
the shooting.

Military sources at the palace told The
Associated Press the prince had turned
against his family because his mother did
not approve of a young woman, Devyani
Rana, as his choice of bride.

The Hindustan Times said a shocked Devyani Rana, fearing for her safety, left
Kathmandu late on Saturday on a flight to
New Delhi, India. Other reports Monday
said Rana remained in Nepal but had left
Kathmandu.

The dead include King Birendra, 55,
Queen Aishwarya, 51, Dipendra's sister
Princess Shruti, 24, his brother Prince
Nirajan, 22, and six others.

The Horizon newspaper said yesterday 40 bullets had been taken from the
bodies of both Prince Nirajan and King Birendra.

Political conspiracy

Other theories circulating include one that Dipendra killed his family over a
disagreement on the future of the role of the royal family.

In 1990, King Birendra agreed to take a constitutional role in the wake of a
popular movement that introduced parliamentary democracy.

But his son was suspected of pushing to return Nepal to an absolute monarchy
system.

One newspaper reported that Maoist rebels, who want to topple the constitutional monarchy, pointed to a "grave political conspiracy," rejecting the idea a lovestruck prince killed the royal family.

The Kathmandu Post, an independent English-language daily, carried a statement
signed by Prachanda, the president of the underground CPN-Maoist party,
calling the shootings a "pre-planned massacre" that would end Nepal's present
political system.

Monarchs have little formal power in Nepal, but public criticism is taboo.

The Associated Press & Reuters contributed to this report."


40 bullets? I guess the gun accidentally reloaded itself, too. The question is, who was really behind this. But even then, the motives may not b entirely clear. if it was the prince, it might have been a marriage issue (look at all the domestic violence that occurs here. Stranger things have happened) or it might have been a political plot. But then why shoot himself?

I think this will get much worse before it gets better. But at least the people of Nepal, who are often illiterate and down-trodden, are feeling a sense of outrage over the patronizing statements released by the government in the last several hours. Many there may be illiterate, but they are not stupid. I'm with Uncle bill on this one... this tradgedy may be of some benefit to the people of Nepal if they can pull off some reforms, or it may be the beginning of very bad times.

Tom
 
More stuff coming in...2 people dead and 19 injured in protests and they are stoning the palace, then being chased off the streets by police/army.

Tom
 
I'd just like to add that I'll do what I can to help the people of Birghorka, if it comes to that. I really hope it doesn't, though.

Uncle Bill, do you know anything about the King's brother, who just became the King? If he is popular enough, this may all blow over, so to speak. Historically, monarchies are kind of funny like that, sometimes an event like this will topple one comepletely, and sometimes it will make one stronger - at least once a new monarch people trust is in power.

The most important thing, though, is that the communists don't take power. That would be a total dissaster, and might even lead to Nepal being annexed by China, like Tibet.

Has anyone heard whether the British Royal family has said anything about this yet? As far as foreigners are concerned, I think maybe Queen Elizabeth is in the best position to help Nepal. I very much hope that someone helps, anyway. And like X-Head, I doubt very much the U.N., who are totally inept anyway, could do anything positive.
 
"If the UN had been around in the thirties, we'd all be speaking German right now."
Fred Cuny, American aid worker (killed in Chechnya)
 
I would wish for nothing more than to have level heads prevail in this matter.
Talking to a woman I work with who is Nepali, who also has most of her family still in Nepal, I was told in no uncertain terms that they (she and her family) do not trust Gyanendra and would not accept him as king. According to her, this is how many in Nepal feel. This , of course, does not bode well for a nation in turmoil.
I agree with Uncle Bill here. If it goes sour, Nepal needs her Gorkhas to come home. I don't think I could come up with a situation that 100,000 Gorkhas could not straighten out.


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Yesterday morning suddently my wife asked me as how am I going to order another Khukuri! I asked her why ... because I seldom watch news on TV. Then she told me that Nepal Royal family were massacred and Nepalese are demonstrating against the new King (ie. Gyanendra).

What a tragedy!

Hope Birgorkha won't be affected by the turmoil.

A lot of possibility behind the incident! Gyanendra? India? The love story? Commis? Power struggle? Foreign agenda?

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Uncle,
Have you heard any more from Nepal? How
are our friends? Has it gotten so bad that they have had to move or have things began to calm a bit?

They are still in our thoughts and prayers.
 
I've heard from Gelbu via email. Our family and all people at BirGorkha are okay and have gone back to making khukuris as usual. Family and kamis stayed in during the turmoil and are okay. Gelbu went out today and said the streets were calm but traffic was down and there was no public transport going on. Rumors are rampant and you really can't believe any of them. But, it looks like things might be drifting back to normal.

The people don't especially dislike Gyanendra, the new king, but they have a great dislike for his son, Paras, who is known as an arrogant, drunken playboy and they would never accept Paras as king so there's a serious problem there. At present Gyanendra has wisely not named his son as successor to the throne.

For whatever it might be worth Paras was involved in one (or maybe more) traffic accidents which killed people while he was driving drunk. He could not be prosecuted because of royal immunity. The good folks of Nepal don't like that kind of stuff.

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