Kit for EDC and Beyond

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I started this as a response to Skitertanks thread about what you really need during a survival situation (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655055, then realized I was getting long winded and veering off course, so I thought I would start a new thread.



What keeps you alive is knowledge and the will to survive. I can survive anywhere I go camping with a blade and a way to make a fire (still kinda suck at the bow drill / hand drill / fire plow, etc. methods, but I'm working on them). So for me that boils down to a knife and a ferro rod. Everything else is for comfort and to make survival easier if I'm hypothermic, injured, etc. I've spent plenty of 2 and 3 day weekends "surviving" with just these 2 items, in a large variety of environments (mountains, desert, jungle, coast) and have always been okay, if not always overly comfortable.

I've been in enough real survival situations in the military, as a professional mountain guide, pursuing my hobbies, etc. that I feel I need to carry more to be more comfortable and in case of injuries, etc. So I carry more with my EDC than most probably do, and I could pair it down because much of it is redundant, if I feel it's important (blades, fire, signaling, especially).

On my keychain I have a BSA Hot Spark ferro rod, a mini Bic, a PJ cotton ball in a pill fob and a little Vic Classic Lite; also a keychain compass, a whistle, a Photon II light and ibuprofen in a pill fob, and an Inka pen to write my last will and testament if I really mess up.

In my wallet (an Ett-All wallet so it's paper thin) is a folded up piece of wax paper, a credit card sized piece of bike innertube (just because it's much more durable than the wax paper, which I have to replace every once in a while), a credit card sized fresnel lens, one of those junky little Brunton survival kits with crappy survival instructions and a "compass" that kinda works (I'm also eventually going to get a Tool Logic Survival Card, but may not carry that in my wallet.) There's also cash (when I have it), debit card, etc. for emergencies. I also have a plastic card with about 3 feet of duct tape on it (Gorilla brand) and about 30-40 feet of dental floss (Gore's Glide no-shred variety), but I'm thinking of removing it because it's making the wallet a little bulkier than I like.

In my pocket there's always a decent folder (today it's a Case Sodbuster Jr. in stainless) and there's always a self-defense folder clipped into the same pocket (Spydero Police today). Sometimes there's a multi-tool (usually a LM Wave) and a flashlight on my belt, if the need arises.

Sometimes I carry a backpack or my Maxpedition Jumbo and I have even more detailed kit in there:

Medical: mini trauma kit in a 6.75" x 6" Aloksak(H&H PriMed compressed gauze, Celox hemostatic agent, Tegaderm occlusive bandage, 5x9 trauma pad and SWAT-T tourniquet/compression bandage), trauma shears or Benchmade Rescue Hook, CPR kit (CPR Shield and nitrile gloves), extra nitrile gloves, trauma card, boo boo kit (Neo to Go, cute bandaids for the kids, 2x2 gauze, benzylkonium chloride wipes), and dental wax for lost fillings.

Survival: AMK Heat Sheet for 1-2 people, Micropur MP-1 tablets, modified disposable lighter, ferro rod, PJ cottonballs, blaze orange bandanna, whistle, breakaway razorblade, plastic card with 20 feet of Gorilla Tape and 220 feet of Glide dental floss, 20 feet of 550 cord and 12 feet of jute twine. There's also a multitool, flashlight and headlamp in there.

If I'm traveling I sometimes have 2 six foot pieces of 550 cord looped through my belt or beltloop and just hanging down my pant leg (doubled up if I'm wearing shorts). A trick I picked up on another forum. Seems excessive, but cord is a valuable thing to me with a billion uses (I don't know how to make cordage yet) and it's not in the least bit noticeable when you use this method. I've used it a few times when traveling overseas and it allows me to go without a backpack, especially nice if I'm wearing a suit, they don't allow bags into a place, etc.

This seems like a lot but it's not really that noticeable and you get used to it quickly.

If I'm outdoors there's another survival kit in my backpack that I'll post more on later.

What do you guys carry and why?
 
Vic Farmer w/ 8 ft of paracord, nitecore D10 and a firesteel on my keyring. I would be ok with those 3 things for awhile as long as the weather isn't hellishly cold.

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As soon as I have a bag of some sorts on me, I have some kind of first aid kit with me.
Though as long as you're near a road, it is easy to get some first aid material, cause kits are compulsory for cars in Germany.
I only ever needed a small bandaid for myself, but I used some trauma-bandages for wounds as well and it is amazing how much just the availability of the simplest first aid means calms down injured people.
 
In my fanny pack I usually have a first aid kit, a fire starting kit (firesteel, bic, commercial tinder), mora knife, small coil of para cord, vic farmer knife, canteen cup, space blanket, whistle, and compass. Some of this stuff may migrate to my pocket, I'll always have a water bottle of some sort, and I may have a baggie of trail mix.
 
I started this as a response to Skitertanks thread about what you really need during a survival situation (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655055, then realized I was getting long winded and veering off course, so I thought I would start a new thread.



What keeps you alive is knowledge and the will to survive. I can survive anywhere I go camping with a blade and a way to make a fire (still kinda suck at the bow drill / hand drill / fire plow, etc. methods, but I'm working on them). So for me that boils down to a knife and a ferro rod. Everything else is for comfort and to make survival easier if I'm hypothermic, injured, etc. I've spent plenty of 2 and 3 day weekends "surviving" with just these 2 items, in a large variety of environments (mountains, desert, jungle, coast) and have always been okay, if not always overly comfortable.

I've been in enough real survival situations in the military, as a professional mountain guide, pursuing my hobbies, etc. that I feel I need to carry more to be more comfortable and in case of injuries, etc. So I carry more with my EDC than most probably do, and I could pair it down because much of it is redundant, if I feel it's important (blades, fire, signaling, especially).

On my keychain I have a BSA Hot Spark ferro rod, a mini Bic, a PJ cotton ball in a pill fob and a little Vic Classic Lite; also a keychain compass, a whistle, a Photon II light and ibuprofen in a pill fob, and an Inka pen to write my last will and testament if I really mess up.

In my wallet (an Ett-All wallet so it's paper thin) is a folded up piece of wax paper, a credit card sized piece of bike innertube (just because it's much more durable than the wax paper, which I have to replace every once in a while), a credit card sized fresnel lens, one of those junky little Brunton survival kits with crappy survival instructions and a "compass" that kinda works (I'm also eventually going to get a Tool Logic Survival Card, but may not carry that in my wallet.) There's also cash (when I have it), debit card, etc. for emergencies. I also have a plastic card with about 3 feet of duct tape on it (Gorilla brand) and about 30-40 feet of dental floss (Gore's Glide no-shred variety), but I'm thinking of removing it because it's making the wallet a little bulkier than I like.

In my pocket there's always a decent folder (today it's a Case Sodbuster Jr. in stainless) and there's always a self-defense folder clipped into the same pocket (Spydero Police today). Sometimes there's a multi-tool (usually a LM Wave) and a flashlight on my belt, if the need arises.

Sometimes I carry a backpack or my Maxpedition Jumbo and I have even more detailed kit in there:

Medical: mini trauma kit in a 6.75" x 6" Aloksak(H&H PriMed compressed gauze, Celox hemostatic agent, Tegaderm occlusive bandage, 5x9 trauma pad and SWAT-T tourniquet/compression bandage), trauma shears or Benchmade Rescue Hook, CPR kit (CPR Shield and nitrile gloves), extra nitrile gloves, trauma card, boo boo kit (Neo to Go, cute bandaids for the kids, 2x2 gauze, benzylkonium chloride wipes), and dental wax for lost fillings.

Survival: AMK Heat Sheet for 1-2 people, Micropur MP-1 tablets, modified disposable lighter, ferro rod, PJ cottonballs, blaze orange bandanna, whistle, breakaway razorblade, plastic card with 20 feet of Gorilla Tape and 220 feet of Glide dental floss, 20 feet of 550 cord and 12 feet of jute twine. There's also a multitool, flashlight and headlamp in there.

If I'm traveling I sometimes have 2 six foot pieces of 550 cord looped through my belt or beltloop and just hanging down my pant leg (doubled up if I'm wearing shorts). A trick I picked up on another forum. Seems excessive, but cord is a valuable thing to me with a billion uses (I don't know how to make cordage yet) and it's not in the least bit noticeable when you use this method. I've used it a few times when traveling overseas and it allows me to go without a backpack, especially nice if I'm wearing a suit, they don't allow bags into a place, etc.

This seems like a lot but it's not really that noticeable and you get used to it quickly.

If I'm outdoors there's another survival kit in my backpack that I'll post more on later.

What do you guys carry and why?

Totally agree ex mil myself not been in any major survival situations.The way i see it is have stuff that makes shelter and fire easy thats to say almost imediate.As sod and murphys law will be working against you.Plenty of paracord and a poncho at least for shelter,lighter wet fire tinder hexamine and mag block for fire.Small aviators flask full and plastic bag or platipus for water and puritabs.Emergency rations energy bars metal mug or small messtin.First aid kit anything specific to yourself alergys etc. Torch ,sak or folder, a good fixed chopper and sharpening kit.This usually fits in a fishing type vest and sheath knife and flint/sharpeners are on/in belt/pockets.As i say could go less/lighter but keep thinking worse case, piss wet through, hurt, tired and not very switched on.
 
Hi all,
Here is what I have been carrying lately.

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The sheath that carries the bigger and then a smaller fixed balde and then the matchsafe and the knife sharping steel, that I made, I carry on my belt.

The the military butt pack and the pouch on the side carries my canteen and the 2 cups that nest all together.

Then the 550 cord and next to the little lighter is a packet of 24 fishhooks.
Then the plactic sheeting which sometimes I take out and put my poncho in there instead. then I have the little space blanket and the little u-dig-it folding hand shovel, a compass and then a couple of bandanas, Not pictured is a little pouch that I carry some sunflower seeds and my spork, and then my Final Option kit and the Final Option knife that I make.

In this pic the items on the right are my Final Option kit shown with the little Final Option knife,

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Here is pic of the Final Option kit all taped up

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and like I said I was not it the pic with the other items some time I carry it in my wallet instead. Just depends what and where I am at hiking.


Bryan
 
I carry layers!

I have on me daily, in my left front pants pocket a Vic OHT, right front pants pocket a BK&T Becker Necker with a BSA Hot Spark and striker on a lanyard along with a button compass, the sheath is wrapped with about 3' of duct tape and the handle is wrapped with about 15' of paracord.

On my right wrist I have a paracord bracelet with about 18' of paracord.

On my left wrist I have a paracord bracelet with about 25' of paracord and Ranger banded to it is a Vic Classic and a BSA Hot Spark.

If a knife falls out of my pocket I have another. If I lose that one, I have the bracelet with another. 3 is 2, 2 is 1!! Layers! :)

I also end up with about 55'-60' feet of paracord ON ME! It's enough line to do a LOT of things!
 
Hi all,
I for got to mention that I also carry ( it is not in the pic that I posted) a small firstaid kit that contains. several 2x2" and several 3x3" gause pads and several 1" wide bandaids and then med tape( about 6' of it wrapped around a little spacer materail that I use in my knife making) and then some salve( burts bees rescue ) that is pretty much it. I know there are more things to carry in a firstaid, But I just wanted to keep it real simple. Band cover, tape to hold it and then some salve.

Bryan
 
Like many here I also carry a layered kit.

I have a very basic EDC-able kit that will be on me at all times out in the woods.

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The Schrade pouch has a whistle, mag fire starter, JK tin knife , cotton ball tinder,ziploc bag, large oven roasting bag, 25' of three strand 165# test twine,three fishhooks and split shot.

The tin is a FAK with bandaids,gauze pads, first aid tape, Immodium AD, Tylenol, Neosporin,and water purification tabs.

Plus my JK EDC knife and Vic Hiker. I feel these few items will be better than nothing if separated from my pack.


I will also bring my larger fanny pack kit for bulky items... poncho, space blanket,extra first aid,para cord, compass.etc

On the fanny pack belt will be my USGI canteen with cup and my JK Hiker knife.
 
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My basic survival kit is a Bic lighter in my left hand pocket and a pocket knife (either fixed or folding) in my front right pocket.

When I have a bag with me, I also have my little EDC bag which contains things like:
Glasses (I'm a little but near sighted)
Hank of Cotton Mason's twine
Roll of athletic tape (for first aid)
Advil

I used to carry around a pantload of gear, but I realized that some of it was simply ridiculous for where I was taking it. Things like carrying a bag that included a stove and mealkit to the library with me...Not the sort of thing I could possibly imagine myself needing for that situation. So I pared it way down to the point I'm at now. I try to focus on having the barest essentials with me, and have faith in my ability to improvise to cover the rest.

In the woods, I always at least carry one spare way of starting a fire (in the winter, I have a whole kit dedicated to firestarting), as well as shelter, food and water. This is often as simple as a poncho, water bottle, and some snack bars, but it is enough to keep my going in any typical emergency.

More often than not, my kit ends up being used to help out others, because they are under-prepared. For instance, I always carry plenty of extra water on dayhikes, sometimes about double what I actually expect to need. On the last few hikes with some of my friends, I ended up sharing my water because they only brought along a liter each...not enough for a very steep 7 mile hike.
 
Well, maybe I'm not as prepared as some folks but I EDC a small fixed blade, Gerber multi tool, pocket knife and ferro rod.

There have recently been changes to exactly what I carry. I now carry my SDS f/b in D2 that I got from the Good deed give away thread and a sodbuster Jr my wife gave me last night(it was my valentines gift but it took till yesterday to find one locally in Carbon V blade) The Gerber multi tool is USMC issue so that was free and the ferro rod was a free gift with an order from Major's surplus and survival.

I do have a more complete kit either in the pickup or at home (depending on the day) but I feel very comfortable in that I can get myself home or to the truck with just my EDC stuff.

I have a question for you guys who EDC a compass but not a map...why? Personally, the only place I have ever been that I couldn't find the cardinal directions without a compass was deep jungle and we don't have that anywhere I'm likely to be without my complete kit. I'm not saying don't do it I'm just wondering if I'm missing something.


ETA: Forgot to mention what my new knves replaced. I used to carry ( for the past 10yrs) a case stockman (carbon V blades) and a mossberg f/b for about 3 yrs ( which was replaced for a little while by a Cold Steel Canadian Belt knife but I hated the sheath on the CBK)

David
 
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Don't have any pics, but...

I always have a CRK Umfaan in my front left pocket, and a Vic Classic or Farmer in my right front pocket. A Photon light on my key chain. If I'm going out in the woods or hiking, I'll add a small kit w/space blanket, BlastMatch, signal mirror, etc. Goes on my belt and adds a sense of security that I'll last for at least a few days before they find me. ;) Oh yeah, I'll also add a fixed blade (usually my Dozier Yukon Pro Skinner... although I've been seriously eyeing some of the NWAs).

Less is more, sometimes. If it's easy to carry and not in the way, I'm more likely to be carrying it and have it when I need it.

YMMV

AJ
 
Katdaddy they are the snow peak ti set called the solo.
They have a lid small cup and then the taller pot. put your canteen in the taller pot then the taller pot fits in the smaller cup and then that all sits on the lid in my canteen pouch that is on the side of my Butt pack.

I got mine at Cabelas in Omaha Ne. They are a bit pricy but I like them.

Bryan
 
The one thing I carry everywhere every day is a knife.
In the town I carry a knife,mobile phone,wallet and keys.
 
Katdaddy they are the snow peak ti set called the solo.
They have a lid small cup and then the taller pot. put your canteen in the taller pot then the taller pot fits in the smaller cup and then that all sits on the lid in my canteen pouch that is on the side of my Butt pack.

I got mine at Cabelas in Omaha Ne. They are a bit pricy but I like them.

Bryan
Thanks. I've seen those in a catalog before. I didn't realize they nested. They are a little pricy, but look nice.
 
Hey Bryan, is that Final Option Kit something you sell, or is that just your personal kit? What book is that from?
 
I don't have my kit in front of me, so this is from memory. When I'm in the woods I carry a small fanny pack with survival gear in it and my gear is kept in 2 Aloksaks. I like fanny packs because I can wear them up front when I have a large pack on and it gives me instant access to survival gear, and also my map and compass, energy bars, gorp, etc. It also stays on me always, unless I'm sleeping, swimming, bathing or utilizing a cat hole.

I have the Collins Gems version of the SAS Survival Guide (with several feet of Gorilla Tape wrapped around the back cover), modified Doug Ritter's AMK Pocket Survival Kit, Vic Farmer with a reflective lanyard and a magnet on it (for magnetizing a needle and for removing metal shards from an eye. I know it's reaching, but it's just an idea I'm experimenting with), #21 scalpel blade, safety pins, compass, AMK 1-2 person Heet Sheet, red bandanna with first aid instructions, Photon Freedom light, 550 cord, jute twine, dental floss, more duct tape, modified disposable lighter, ferro rod, petroleum jelly cotton balls, wire, ziploc bag, Micropur MP-1 tabs, chemical handwarmers (to warm my frozen hands so I can actually start a fire and warm the rest of me) and trauma kit. I'm sure I'm forgetting some things, but you get the gist of it. It's also constantly evolving to fit my needs or because I've found a cooler toy.

I'm sure you've noticed that there's a heavy redundency in my firestarting gear (2 on my keychain alone). I've been in a lot of terrible places for firestarting and so I like to be prepared. In a real life survival situation I'll go for a PJCB and lighter, but I like having options, especially if it turns into something longer term. In places like triple canopy jungle or cloud forest, all of your firestarting skills are put to the test and finding dry tinder and fuel is often challenging. While climbing I've started fires in blizzards and in wind swept nightmares. I've also started a fire in the middle of a sleet storm (not a survival situation) out of pure stubborness because I couldn't admit defeat as I had always been able to start a fire before (It took nearly 2 hours and I finally cheated by using my titanium SnowPeak cannister mountain stove as a blow torch to dry then ignite wood, all the while hoping it wouldn't explode. Quite possibly the most satisfying fire I've ever made!). For me, firestarting is something I'll never skimp on.

We won't even start with what's in my car!
 
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