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The question is, do you want in or not? And is BF (official body!?) up with us newbies making the rules for ourselves or no? If yes, who is going to take care of us newbies playing by our newbie rules?

No need to make this complicated. We all just want to participate and make knives/ share experience?

Even if the knife I recieve is shit, I don't care, someone put hours in it and gave hopefully their best. I don't live from knifemaking and don't expect someone entering a newbie kith to do either. You recieve a bad knife, it's what you counted with when you entered.

It may be a good way to say to another maker, hey man, your file hardness test was shit, you might wanna check your hardening process.

But then again, if I outsource my heat treating and am happy with overall pic, I will submit my knife to another newbie maker who maybe knows much more then me.

It's about the exchange and "one love". Take part, berate it, help us or just proceed as you were.

I am definitely not here to take a lesson in psychology (although I might need one).

Over and out for me untill the decision has been made (by someone resposible to take it) in the World Wide Web of BF.

I am happy to learn from off all of you.
 
FredyCro said:
The question is, do you want in or not? And is BF (official body!?) up with us newbies making the rules for ourselves or no? If yes, who is going to take care of us newbies playing by our newbie rules?

No need to make this complicated. We all just want to participate and make knives/ share experience?

Even if the knife I recieve is shit, I don't care, someone put hours in it and gave hopefully their best. I don't live from knifemaking and don't expect someone entering a newbie kith to do either. You recieve a bad knife, it's what you counted with when you entered.

It may be a good way to say to another maker, hey man, your file hardness test was shit, you might wanna check your hardening process.

But then again, if I outsource my heat treating and am happy with overall pic, I will submit my knife to another newbie maker who maybe knows much more then me.

It's about the exchange and "one love". Take part, berate it, help us or just proceed as you were.

I am definitely not here to take a lesson in psychology (although I might need one).

Over and out for me untill the decision has been made (by someone resposible to take it) in the World Wide Web of BF.

I am happy to learn from off all of you.
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Sums up how i feel, hopefully it takes off.
 
Stepping into the hurricane...sigh...and all I originally was planning on doing was explaining to dirtyphil what a KITH is.

However I will abide by the rules mapped out (are there any clear cut ones yet?) unless the rules become too onerous. If so, I will drop out.

Such a chaotic beginning doesn't bode well...but I'll stick around.
 
I agree with Sean's last comment.

There is nothing that prevents you chaps from starting a KITH. You can set any rules you want. You can let anyone you wish join in. If it gets set up and running, I'll sticky the thread. I will be glad to give the person running the KITH any advice desired ( by email or PM). If you want one, start one.

Just as a last comment to whoever decides to start one _
Three months is about the shortest time a KITH can run and have finishers with knives of any real quality. Making a deadline of January 1st won't work. Many KITHs run four months to the deadline.
 
Good to hear from you Stacy, thanks.

I would be willing to draft some rules based on the rules Stacy posted. It could take up to 2 weeks because I am currently under water IRL. The rules would be newbie friendly but wouldn't exclude anyone willing to participate. The rules could then be further revised by people who want it. Majority decides on adopting the rules. 1 memeber with wish to participate equals 1 vote.

Proposed start of Newbie KITH 2020 is 1/1/2020, finish Easter Sunday 12/4/2020 or 30/4/2020.

Unfortunately I don't have the time or experience to run it. Maybe someone who would agree with the rules and already ran a KITH before would take on the task of supporting us newbies.

Let me know if you are interested in this and I will come up with something.
 
I would advise you to just make up a set of rules based on the previous four pages of comments. Trying to make this a group discussion with voting will be a train wreck. The biggest thing for everyone to remember is anyone can say, "I'm In", but the only people actually in the KITH are those who complete their knife by the closing date and post their "I'm Ready" post with photo.
 
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Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith said:
I would advise you to just make up a set of rules based on the previous four pages of comments. Trying to make this a group discussion with voting will be a train wreck. The biggest thing for everyone to remember is anyone can say, "I'm In", but the only people actually in the KITH are those who complete their knife by the closing date and post their "I'm Ready" post with photo.
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Agreed. More or less what i was trying to say before. Trying to run something by committee usually leads to incredible frustration... and failure
 
You chaps might want to move over to the winter KITH that just got started. I think if this crowd wants a KITh later on, start one in the spring. Two KITHs running at the same time was really a bad idea the last time it was tried.
 
Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith said:
You chaps might want to move over to the winter KITH that just got started. I think if this crowd wants a KITh later on, start one in the spring. Two KITHs running at the same time was really a bad idea the last time it was tried.
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If there isn't a clear path forward by Thanksgiving this is what I will do
 
Only thing I would make sure of is that you have to use a known steel. No railroad spikes, lawnmower blades leafsprings ect. I know I'd be pretty bummed if someone sent me a railroad spike that I coundnt even use. Simple carbon steels are cheep so no reason to not use it.
 
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