Kmg ?

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jbblount

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Anyone got a good reason why a KMG grinder couldn't be turned on its side for horizontal grinding?
 
A good friend built a table to be able to turn his Bader on its side to work as a horizontal. Works like a charm. The only difference is that the KMG is belt driven. You'd have to make sure that your tensioning method worked in both positions.
 
I don't think it would be a problem if you have the baseplate to keep the belt tension and motor position from changing.
 
I dont have one yet. Going to order in a week or so. Just want to be ready when it gets here. I have an idea that uses a heavy duty hinge. But the weight issue worrys me. Wish I had something to go by. I cant find anything online about this.
 
I think it could be done.

They weigh about 6000 pounds though...

(actually about 200 pounds)

You could do like me and stand or even kneel at very odd angles. :D

Check out the TW-90 grinder, it rotates to horizontal.

You have me thinking... how hard would it be to build a dedicated horizontal grinder, it might be easier to build than a conventional one.
 
The TW-90 is way out of my range! Yeah I really dont want to do the funny angle thing anymore lol! I thought about doing a dedicated horizontal grinder but would really like to figure out a way to turn the KMG. It's got to be possible.
 
If the hinges and hardware are heavy duty enough I don't see any limitations the KMG would impose.
 
daniel thats what i like to hear. at work we have some hinges that come in about 6 foot long. can be cut to any size. the surface area that would be used to mount it is only about 1.25". not sure if that is enough. the thing is about 1/4" thick and the pin looks to be about 3/8" or better. Heavy duty enough?
 
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So far I am only in the planning stages. The clone is very, very near completion, but my daughter and her fam have moved in with us, so there is no room to set it up at home. So I started thinking what else can I do with it in the mean time. I'm thinking of mounting the clone on a 5/8 - 3/4 inch base plate. With a 1 inch or so bar mounted on the bottom for a pivot. The pivot seems to need to be near the left side of the front support leg, in order to have the belt at about the same working height as in the vert position. It really becomes more about the stand/bench than the grinder itself. Proper positioning of the drive motor will help with the balance while tilting it over. The bench would have 1/2 inch or better thick steel saddles front and rear for the pivot bar to set into. Something will have to be worked out for locking it down once in position, which will probaly be a couple bolts going thru the base and into a stop plate or vice/versa as needed. As mentioned drive tension will also be an issue for some. I plan on useing a 2 hp 3 ph motor with a vfd, so the belt tension can be a set and forget. For those useing multi step pulleies I think a spring loaded tension wheel and arm that presses down on the flat side of the belt to hold tension might be a good alt.
 
So far my Clone is tiping the scales well over a hundred pounds, Thats with my version of flat platen, but I haven't gotten any contact wheels yet. I'm sure they would be lighter. A plate of 5/8 by 18 x 15 will add anouther 50 pounds. This is going to end up close to 200 pounds total weight. I think a 3/8 pin might be a little light, unless you use several. You must remember that they will have to be very carefully aligned or they will bind when you tilt it over.
This also brings to mind that when tilted the tracking adjustment on the Real KMG will now be on the bottom. Not the most convenient place for it. I'm moving mine 90 degrees to put it on top ( in the vert position). This will mean I have to add a plate to the bottom of the traking wheel mt for the adjustment bolt to push against.
The lock down for the tool arm will also be on the bottom. You could move them or add extras on the opposite side. I didn't like the idea of having them inside the loop. The knobs I made for mine have long handles to extend them for leverage and will be a bit easier to find and use than than the original knobs, I think.
I don't have a photobucket acct, so I can't post pics of whaat I have so far. I hope my words will explain enough.
I'll see if I can e-mail you the pics so far.
 
Well the pics don't seem to want to go into the blade e-mail either. If you need pics, PM me with your private e-mail and I can send them that way, I hope.
 
Why not just use a dedicated engine stand? Then you have plenty of support and also a rotating capability. If you mounted the motor directly underneath, you could use a plate mounted with hinges to mount the motor too. You could use a tension idea similar to the KMG for the motor tension device. Then all that would need fabbed for the grinder is a work rest. Maybe it looks better in my head but i think it might work lol
 
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