Knife confiscated for the day

Australia is obviously more civilised than the USA (should I put a smilie here? Dunno..read this, then you tell me).

I did jury duty just before Christmas. No metal detectors, no armed guards, no searches, no problems. Took my normal SAK, multitool and AFCK without attracting any attention.
Some of the others on the jury took in bags - briefcase, backpack, etc.



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Trevor - no slam on you...I am allowed to own a firearm and defend my home and family. Are you?

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Hey!

My story: i went to Zurich Airport (Switzerland) to pick up a friend.
When i noticed the metal detector i realised, that i was still carrying (as usual) my large boker automatic. Automatics are very illegal to carry in Switzerland.
I put it on the desk together with my keys and my wallet.
Of course the Security Guards picked up the knife.
Switched it open, closed it again. Opened it, closed it repeatedly. (with this special shine in his eyes)
He told me that automatics are illegal in Switzerland, told me to pay attention not to get caught with this knife by the police and gave it back to me!!!
Unbelievable.
You may imagine my surprise in that moment!!!
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Hmm, on a similar note, has anyone gone through the El Paso airport lately? I used to live in El Paso (about 10 years ago) and they actually had a knife shop in there. I remeber drooling over some Spyderco Police and various other knives. I had an interview with a local LE agency a while back and the Lt. asked me about it. All the officers on the review board were shocked that there was a knife shop in the airport.
 
I was stopped at 6 Flags Magic Mountain in Los Angeles - forgot my Endura was in my pocket, and the metal detector went off. The guards not only wouldn't check it for me, they told me my choices were to throw it out or take it back to my car (about a mile) - dito my micra - "no self-defense items allowed."

I went about 50 feet and hid it in some shrubbery until I came back out again.

 
My brother was traveling right after airport security was initiated in the 70s. He was in college and had long hair. When the metal detector went off on his carry on bag, the security guard opened it to find a 6" Buck Bowie and a baggie of green leaves. After displaying the blade to all the other passengers, they called the cops. The leaves were mint tea and the knife was returned to him at his destination.
Last year I traveled to China and carried a small pocket knife (non-locking blade type)all the way with no problems. It came in handy peeling fruit!!
 
No knife confiscation story (yet
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), but a handful of years back when I was meeting my girlfriend at the gate, I dropped my keys with my (non-metallic) kubotan keychain into the basket. They not-so-politely informed me that I could pick up my "ninja stick" on the way back out. Fortunately, I did get it back, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to drive home.

Since then, I make sure to stick my keys into the pocket of my leather jacket and throw the whole jacket onto the X-ray belt. The one time I got a questioning look as to that, I simply said that the metal zipper has set of the metal detector before, so I figured it was smarter to send it through the machine. I haven't had a problem with my kubotan since starting to do it that way
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I had Jury Duty and was wearing a sheath with my M-UDT in it. I took it out & left it in the car, and went on in. Keys, lighter, pen in the tray, and through I went. No alarm, but a LEO stopped me and asked "What's in the sheath?" He smiled, knowingly, as I said "Nothing Officer"

He knew....
 
Please do not confuse the people who man these "security check points" with real cops. Most of the "officers" who check you in at the airport are contract security who are sometimes so bored by the routine nature of their job they try to create a "serious situation" where none had really existed. I visited Washington DC with my wife and kids last summer and I was apalled by the arrogant attitude of the officers I had to deal with to tour the various federal buildings. I was not carrying a gun (don't even think about it unless you're a fed or a DC cop), but the badge in my wallet set off one detector and the officer acted like I was a problem.

A true law enforcement officer has so much to do he or she does not have time to harass a citizen. A true law enforcement officer also knows they are part of the community they serve and will not give someone a hard time... unless it becomes necessary to get the job done.

I am not trying to insult anybody, I have seen some good people at security checkpoints, although the good ones seem to be former military or former street cops.

 
WOW! Those are some dumb guards. "Drrr. I guess it's under 2.5 inches!" "Hey! This guy's got a SAK on his keyring! The blade must be at LEAST an inch! We'd better make sure he doesn't pull any funny stuff!" GEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!!

Howie
 
Update on my previous post in this thread.

I spent Y2K at Universal studios here in Florida. With me in the park I was carrying 3 guns (226, 230 and PPKS) and in the car was my new Calico with 2 100 round mags. Plus my HALO III.

Funny thing was I was nervous they might search me that day. I was behind a man who went in with a back pack on! No kids either, just him and his backpack.


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Mike,
Why in hell would anyone take any gun ,let alone 3, to Universal Studio's?

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JUST IN CASE!

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Later,
John

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Skeleton walks into a bar and and says "give me a beer and a mop."
 
"no self-defense items allowed."

Was that a slip of the tongue or what? Admitting in so many words just what kind of "crime" they're trying to prevent???


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The only crime that I see is that they make you spend 7 dollars for a soda! :O

I just think that it was funny at a few concerts I was able to walk in with my spyderco rescue while people were getting there keys confiscated (with mace on the key chain) and the spikes they were wearing as well. (I also had a push-knife with me as well)
 
Mike,

I swear man, you obviously wear boxers 'cause they don't make jockeys big enough to suspend those rocks!

3 guns, and a Calico with 200 rounds in the car!!! During Y2K at Universal?! A small indiscretion and you'd of made national news, man!!

I couldn't have pee'd for a week, if I'd tried that!



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The FAA permits individual airlines to contract out for security services including those that man metal detectors. If you look at the local want ads for any big city Sunday paper you will always see want ads for these positions for little over minimum wage. The turnover rate must be fantastic and what quailty are you getting.FAA investigators perform checks and have carried on guns and even hand grenades thru these terminals.
Courthouse & government bldgs. are more varied. Sometimes they are actual County courthouse police working these positions but other times contract security.
Some federal bldgs. & courthouses actually use private,contract security.
As far as the metal detectors,there are some variables such as settings,skill and competence of the operator.
There are also some "tricks" with knives that allow you to beat them which I don't want to post openly.
 
I have a suggestion for those at Magic Mountain, Universal Stuidos, etc. Don't give them your money!

My son has been carrying a knife since he was old enough to receive proper training in it's use. My wife is never without her Spyderco (and Firestar 9mm). We don't patronize or give money to places that wish to limit or control our right to self-defense.

If I have to do something in a courthouse or government building I call ahead and find out if they have lockers or appropriate storage for my legal self-defense tools. If they do I like to follow Mike's example and have a locker full of stuff. If they give me a hard time I ask why they think the outside is any safer for me than them with thier body armor, automatics, batons and pepper spray.

I actually had a gentleman at the federal building in Seattle run a check on me while I was inside. When I came back to pick up my gear he asked why I hadn't told him I was an LEO. I asked what that had to do with what I carried when on the street on my own time. This answer seemed to totally baffle him, that I would prefer to rely on my legal CWP and my Second Amendment rights rahter than just flash a badge.

 
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