Knife for Hog Hunting and Dispatching…What Would You Choose?

TC said:
Those looked like fairly small pigs though. For an adult 200+ pound European boar you need a much more substantial knife than what he used to kill quickly and efficiently.
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The knife maker suggests that is what the length is for.
 
The Svord pig sticker seems to get excellent reviews from pig farmers so I guess it would be fine for wild animals.

Not pretty but a good design and from reviews does the job.
 
Dispatching? With a knife?

UMmm . . . How about a 9mm between the eyes?

After that, I'd say bout any knife you would dress out an Elk with would do after it has been shot dead i'd guess.
 
VorpelSword said:
Dispatching? With a knife?

UMmm . . . How about a 9mm between the eyes?

After that, I'd say bout any knife you would dress out an Elk with would do after it has been shot dead i'd guess.
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Drop bear said:
No. Because the dogs generally.
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This is the point. The use of dogs requires you to use a knife sometimes.

When you're in open country, where you have a good view over long distances, rifles are the way to go.

But as soon as you're in country with thick vegetation, it's a different story. You will almost never just wander up to a wild hog in thick vegetation. The only way to find the hogs in these environments is with dogs. Dogs chase and then bail the hog, and then you run up to them as fast as you can (could be hundreds of metres or many kilometres that you have to run). What you generally see when you get there is that the hog has run into the thickest vegetation it can find (or a hole, or a stream) to provide it some cover. The dogs go in after it. The dogs physically press themselves up against the hog, while grabbing its ears (or wherever they can get a grip) to hold it in place. There might be four or five dogs pressed up against it. They are all moving around. It could be pitch dark, and hard to see through scrub. At that point, it can be extremely difficult to shoot the hog without shooting the dogs. Hence, the need to go in with a knife.

One time I was standing in some long tussock grass and ferns. The dogs were running around in the distance chasing scent. One dog got a trail and followed it all around, getting closer and closer, then it ran right up to me and startled a full size hog from underneath the tussocks about two or three metres from my feet. That's how hard it is to find a wild hog by yourself - you'll probably never even see it, let alone catch it.

And on topic, I'd be happy using any of these....

Busse TGLB
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Busse Jackhammer 10
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David Mary long hunter
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David Mary field knife
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David Mary tactical kitchen knife
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DocJD said:
The fuller very well might help accelerate bleeding out , shock / hypovolemia , and thus hasten the end of struggling ; but I question it happens because of air flowing into the heart under atmospheric pressure .

If it is due to air embolism , I'd really like to understand how that happens from a knife fuller .
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Bob Denman said:
Doctors in here; who would like to offer an opinion?
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In my limited experience with even just larger arteries , blood wants to come gushing out at the least provocation and is not easy to stop . :eek:

A wild boar, being held by dogs, would have extremely high central BP and HR . Air would have to be forced in with pressure exceeding that within the heart or great vessels surrounding .

I don't have scientific proof , but reason argues against fuller induced air embolism , IMO .

If someone can prove otherwise , I'd like to understand how that works . :)

For shooting some pressurized gas into a hog , this thing might work :
 
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DocJD said:
In my limited experience with even just larger arteries , blood wants to come gushing out at the least provocation and is not easy to stop . :eek:

A wild boar, being held by dogs, would have extremely high central BP and HR . Air would have to be forced in with pressure exceeding that within the heart or great vessels surrounding .

I don't have scientific proof , but reason argues against fuller induced air embolism , IMO .

If someone can prove otherwise , I'd like to understand how that works . :)

For shooting some pressurized gas into a hog , this thing might work :
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And the air would have to be enter the right side of heart to enter pulmonary artery. Not going to happen when plunging knives that are not static. The fuller (in theory) decreases surface tension to allow blood to escape faster (much the same as police tire spike-sticks don’t allow the tire puncture to seal over since the spike is hollow, and why some stabbing-puncture style knives have hollow section or multiple edges). Once again the stabbing is not static and the wound is generally quite large inside the hog from levering of the blade while the hog is jerking.

I have stabbed quite a number of hogs and arrowed many as well. I spent more than 20 years working ICU with open heart patients managing intra-aortic balloon pumps and ventricular assist devices so I have a pretty good idea how the heart and anatomy works.

I am not disputing anyone else’s experience and people should use what works for them. Texas brush may be different than what other deal with but there are a number of great designs out there that should serve anyone well. A good sheath is imperative as you may trip running through brush. Prior to drawing and committing to stabbing needs attention placed on safety of you, dogs, and others. I liked to get secure hold of the right rear leg for control and to open right lung and heart to my right inward stab. I have held onto bigger hogs by both legs while handlers tried to get dog off the hog, or get hogs to release a dog. It can be a long chase that suddenly is in a bramble and a boar flies out from the brush straight at you. We used plotts hounds for tracking and pits and pit/hound mixes for grab dogs.

My first time getting charged, I only had time to lift my foot to block one and Its face smacked into the sole of my boot and knocked me back on my ass. The dogs got his attention away from me quickly and adrenalin kicked in. When I got that hog the wound from where I entered to where I pulled out as over 6”. It was right at 300 lbs and a beautiful rust color with large tusks and tushes. He also tasted great.

Good luck on choice of blade and on any hunting.
 
Currawong said:
This is the point. The use of dogs requires you to use a knife sometimes.

When you're in open country, where you have a good view over long distances, rifles are the way to go.

But as soon as you're in country with thick vegetation, it's a different story. You will almost never just wander up to a wild hog in thick vegetation. The only way to find the hogs in these environments is with dogs. Dogs chase and then bail the hog, and then you run up to them as fast as you can (could be hundreds of metres or many kilometres that you have to run). What you generally see when you get there is that the hog has run into the thickest vegetation it can find (or a hole, or a stream) to provide it some cover. The dogs go in after it. The dogs physically press themselves up against the hog, while grabbing its ears (or wherever they can get a grip) to hold it in place. There might be four or five dogs pressed up against it. They are all moving around. It could be pitch dark, and hard to see through scrub. At that point, it can be extremely difficult to shoot the hog without shooting the dogs. Hence, the need to go in with a knife.

One time I was standing in some long tussock grass and ferns. The dogs were running around in the distance chasing scent. One dog got a trail and followed it all around, getting closer and closer, then it ran right up to me and startled a full size hog from underneath the tussocks about two or three metres from my feet. That's how hard it is to find a wild hog by yourself - you'll probably never even see it, let alone catch it.

And on topic, I'd be happy using any of these....

Busse TGLB
IMG-6706.jpg


Busse Jackhammer 10
Screen-Shot-2020-09-06-at-7-50-10-am.jpg


David Mary long hunter
003.jpg


David Mary field knife
a3.jpg


David Mary tactical kitchen knife
IMG-1818.jpg
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Really nice to see David Mary’s work on pair with Busse. It speaks a lot about his craftsmanship and dedication.
 
Well, traditionally they used something sharp at the end of a pole and a short sword to end it. While derived from what the press now calls "Weapons of War", these dedicated hog hunting tools were n ot the same as military weapons.
 
OK, BS aside:

A hog hunting technique I have heard of involves erecting a temporary enclosure on the land the hogs are ruining and baiting it. When the hogs come to the bait, the opening is closed and all the hogs get shot, Sows first. Similar hunting enclosures have been used since prehistoric times.

This and similar techniques don't endanger your dogs and can come closer to eradicating wild and Ferrel hogs in an area if repeated. I understand that finding where they rest up during the day is important to ridding an area of them.

Has anyone used a drone for spotting? A friend in Michigan has informed me that during deer season, the Michigan game authorities prohibit the use of any aerial veicle for spotting deer. Given that, it would be my guess that drones might be useful for killing wild hogs.
 
DocJD said:
In my limited experience with even just larger arteries , blood wants to come gushing out at the least provocation and is not easy to stop . :eek:

A wild boar, being held by dogs, would have extremely high central BP and HR . Air would have to be forced in with pressure exceeding that within the heart or great vessels surrounding .

I don't have scientific proof , but reason argues against fuller induced air embolism , IMO .

If someone can prove otherwise , I'd like to understand how that works . :)

For shooting some pressurized gas into a hog , this thing might work :
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Well with that pig video. It didn't look like it bled all that much. Which I assume means the heart stopped.

Probably due to a knife being smashed in to it.
 
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