Knife for surf fishing?

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I'm heading down to the Texas coast this weekend on my first surf fishing excursion. I got to looking at my knife collection and found that I really don't have anything that I would feel comfortable carrying in waist to chest deep salt water for hours on end. Anybody have a suggestion for a good but cheap (<$50)knife for my adventure? I was thinking a small neck knife like the Emerson La Griffe would be good, but I am worried about rust. Also, I need some small rust resistant sissors to carry with me as well, so if somebody knows of a good place to look let me know.

Thanks,
Kevin
 
I'd suggest a good ol' fashioned fillet knife. That's probably what you're going to need more than anything else, and it can be pressed into other service if need be.
It also has the benefit of being gear appropriate to your activity, and no LEO would think of giving you a hard time about it.
Good fishin!

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i would pick a CRKT bear claw. i have one and it's never let me down. you could get two for about $50

it's a beast in fully serrated.

brandon
 
The Boker Angler is what I'd take. It's as rust-proof as anything out there with it's X-15 steel. It retails for about $80, but you will find them on the net for $50-$60.

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I'm from the right coast, and love serf fishing. A cheap fillet knife is a good idea, but I carry a Talon. If you want no fear of rust- The Talon is the way to go.
 
The tool that I can't do without (while fishin') are my needle nose pliers. They cut line, remove hooks from fish and bend/straighten hooks. The knife I usually take is a carbon Schrade sharpfinger. It doesn't go in the water with me, since it is usually only used for cleaning fish. Therefore rust isn't a problem (WD40
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If you like fillets a Schrade fillet knife is stainless and serviceable and inexpensive.
Trust me, get the pliers. Take a piece of line that youl'll be using to the store, make sure you can cut it with the wire cutter in the pliers and you're good to go. WD40 that too.
Tight lines & bent rods
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Ebbtide out.
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Dad always carries a Ratula brand fillet knife. They are cheap but functional. Salt water will damage almost anything so don't invest much in a knife like that. Plus its really easy to loose while surf fishing.
 
Surf fishing! Wooooweeee!
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It be good fun.
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Just wondering if you ever do fishing, and if so, what type? I'm guessing that you'd only ever have done stream and lake fishing, if ever at all. Fly, bait or lure?

Anyways, assuming you have never done any form of fishing before...
You will need a pair of pliers. Definitely small needle-nosed, preferably bent/angled as well. This would be for removing the hooks from your catch, and if it is too big, it may not be able to go in to the mouth of the fish to get those stuck in an awkward position. Of course there is a specialised tool for removing hooks, but I think that it would be an unnecessary expense, especially for your first trip. The pliers must be of sufficient quality so that the wire cutter part of it can cut your monofilament lines and leader material, and your smaller hooks. You will probably also end up using it for crimping metal sleeves (if you go for really heavy leaders) and applying tension when you tie a line.

You may also need an average-grade fillet knife for preparing your bait and cleaning the catch. IIRC, Frost's of Sweden (NOT Frost Cutlery) would be a good one. I don't really have very much info for this area and personally, I just use a fillet knife I picked up from the tackle shop marked "Frosts" on the handle but going for a mere AU$20. I'm sure someone else can tell you all about the various blade from custom makers and so on and so forth. I can't.
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Be warned that this knife will probably be left on the cutting board (Cutting board very important too) in the bait preparation area and everyone will be using it. It will also be the one item most likely to be lost or left behind, not counting the rigs that you will lose to over-sized fish, break-offs in mid-cast, or snagging on rocks.

Scissors are probably the simplest part of the deal. Fiskars. I haven't found anything else that comes close. (Or maybe because all the other offerings are crap.) The one I have been using all this while was, I think, intended for craft use, but it doesn't matter.

Finally, we come to the knife that you would carry for personal use. Anything in Talonite or Stellite would be good for salt water soaking, but would be too expensive. Your heart will break and your wallet will go in to shock if you even think that you've lost it. The La Griffe is a good choice and with a light coating of oil or Tuff Cloth, would serve very well, as would the Bear Claw from CRKT, though I am a little wary about the AUS-8 (?) steel holding up to corrosion when the coating is lost. My personal preference is for a plain edge knife of a typical shape such as the wharncliffe, spear point, drop point or clip point. Steel should be one of the slightly more rust resistant types such as ATS-34, ATS-55, BG-42, VG-10. Even 440C and (I think) 440V would be good choices. Of some importance is the surface finish of the knife, as some forms of finish actually seem to encourage corrosion. Mirror finish is probably best, followed by bead blasting (real bead-blast, not sand-blast) or shot peening. Oh yeah, 1 hand opening is rather important too, as the other hand will most likely be holding a rod or a recalcitrant fish.
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On that note, I would like to recommend knives like the Spydie Endura or Delica, the SOG Autoclip, AG Russell's 1-hand-knife with the zytel handle (the other handle types are way over your $50 limit), Camillus EDC (preferably the 154CM version available exclusively from 1SKS), Camillus Arclite, or even one of the neck knives available from the custom makers.

OK. I've gone on too long in this post. Hope you find something good and enjoy yourself this weekend.
 
Hello.
When coast fishing I use the Fallkniven WM1 in a neck-kydex. Its a great little handy knife for that.
The fillet-knife I keep ashore.
The WM1 is easy to use with one hand (the other one holding the rod) . Its also strong enough if you get in trouble in the water fx get tangled up in something or need to cut yourself free from the waders. A long blade as a fillet knif is cumbersome to use in the water and isnt tough enough if you get in a jam.

Have a nice trip.

Martin
 
Kevin, I just got back from a 5 day fishing trip in Mozambique (I live in South Africa) and had the same problem before I left - what knife?

I decided on a SOG Auto Clip with Black Nitrade coated blade. The Auto Clip because the clip's tension is adjustable and can be adjusted to grab the pocket very tightly - less chance of loosing it.The SOG because it is available in the black nitrade coated blade and it cost me the equivalent of about US$40.00. And further more and important because the blade can be removed for cleaning and maintenance. I also removed the blade and applied a coating of Tough Cloth.

The knife held up very well in my opinion. I rinsed it in fresh water the first time on the third day (and I was in and out the water a lot of times) - no rust damage.

I then neglected to clean the knife on the last day and only yesterday remembered that it was still in my fishing backpack. The knife had 4 rust spots which I removed with Metal Glo polish (the polish did nothing to the nitrade coating), All that is left of the rust spots are two very very slight blemishes and they would not have been there had I cleaned/rinsed the knife on the last day.

This knife is a good buy and I will definately use it in the sea again.
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Cammilus arclite. 420HC is a good stainless if you want rust resistance, it is easy to clean, inexpensive and comes with a great sheath. Use it for cutting line etc while fishing and leave your filleting knife in your bag for cleaning fish afterwards.
 
I appreciate all of the information. This is not my first time fishing but my experience is limited to fresh water fishing. I have a good pair or pliers in my tackle box as well as a fillet knife. I guess what I really need is a good pair of small scissors to cut line while I'm out in the surf. I don't want to be hauling a bunch of stuff out into the water with me. My main reason for wanting a knife with me is so I don't feel naked out in the water. It just does not feel right not having a knife on me somewhere.

Kevin
 
dont know the cost......but Camilus makes some small talonite knives that would be PERFECT for what you are doing...I know they arent too expensive.

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I was surf fishing and swimming down Chatham (Cape Cod) last year with my BM Pinnacle clipped inside my trunks and it never came close to rusting. I also didn't catch anything so I couldn't say if it's good for cleaning fish or if blood and guts affects rusting either way. I didn't even take good care of it, maybe rinsed it once or twice that week. It did get gummed up with peanut butter and cheese and stuff, then I had to give it a good cleaning. I think people tend to worry about rust more than they have to.

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I realize you've said you don't really need a knife, particularly a filleting knife, but wanted to provide you this URL:
http://eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/index.html

It is for Smoky Mountain Knife Works. They carry the Swedish Frosts brand of knives. They have scalers, deck knives,"clippers", all under $10. Their site is just crawling now, so didn't get a look at the filet knife price. I just bought the carbon steel clipper, for use in the kitchen and to see how I liked the knife. One of the best spent $7 of my money ever. I also got the Swedish Army knife, for $7. It's handle is too slick for my liking. But, the handle of the skipper feels better than any other kitchen knife I own, and most of my other knives as well. And, they're sharp!

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Bugs
 
Tom, I believe you are talking about the min-Talon? Cheaper than the full sized Talon, but IIRC, they still cost about $150. I don't think Camillus makes any other Talonite knives.
 
I mostly flyfish freshwater. Always have a small fixed blade in kydex sheath clipped upside down on my wader suspender. Pull and extract as needed. Never know when you may need to use to cut one's wading boot loose when caught in boulders in a fast moving river.

I took up saltwater flyfishing and used the same knife made of ATS34. Although I rinsed it off afterwards, apparently not well enough since I found several rust stains the next day. So, I invested in a talonite with MCS by Allen Blade. No worries now. I consider the knife an essential part of my gear.

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